chip & pin

James

Chip and PIN leaves OAPs without any food:

http://www.miltonkeynestoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=415&ArticleID=1392192

This unfortunate elderly couple wouldn't have been locked out of their account if they had Chip & Signature cards. I wonder if they know about them

King_Of_Fools

James wrote:

Chip and PIN leaves OAPs without any food:

http://www.miltonkeynestoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=415&ArticleID=1392192

This unfortunate elderly couple wouldn't have been locked out of their account if they had Chip & Signature cards. I wonder if they know about them

The article does not say that the problem was specifically due to Chip & PIN or even if they had a Chip & PIN card. It says, "their card wouldn't go through the chip and pin machine."

There is no reason, therefore, to make the assertion that they would have been OK with a Chip & Signatute card, they may even have one!

James

According to the manager at Tesco the card was a Chip and PIN card. Apparently they were either locked out of their account or never activated the account by going to an ATM. They wouldn't have been required to do this if the card were Chip and Signature.

In a similar vain:

CHIP & PIN blunder leaves OAP Penniless:

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/viewarticle.aspx?id=342887

Then there's always liability shift:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28053-2077827,00.html

King_Of_Fools

James wrote:

According to the manager at Tesco the card was a Chip and PIN card. Apparently they were either locked out of their account or never activated the account by going to an ATM. They wouldn't have been required to do this if the card were Chip and Signature.

Do you have a source for this information as it is not in the article you linked to.

You obviously do not have a Chip and PIN card or you would also know that you do not need to activate the account by going to an ATM.

James

Do you have a source for this information as it is not in the article you linked to.

Sorry for the delay in replying, I asked the store manager concerned.

Chip & PIN Hack Exposed:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=31547

According to Shell, only one filling station had its kepy pads tampered with.

The press are telling a different strory:

Newbury:

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article.aspx?articleID=2164

Stanstead:

http://www.itv.com/news/britain_1161192.html

Coventry (Leamington).

http://iccoventry.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0150swarksnews/tm_objectid=17047566&method=full&siteid=50003&headline=local-victims-of--pound-1m-chip-and-pin-fraud-name_page.html

Re Chip and PIN card activation - this was a quote from the store manager an not me. As for card activation some require the cardholder to make a phone call to activate them, others don't. There is no standard procedure,as there are no standard ATMs or no standard PIN entry devices.