Difference between Retail and On The Road Prices

martindow
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I'm thinking of getting a Hyundai i10. In their brochure the retail price is 6395 and the on the road 7000 a difference of 705 pounds.

They tell me that this is to cover the cost of registering, number plates, tax and pre-delivery checks. Can I insist on buying at the retail price? Registering a car is 55 pounds, road tax is 35 and number plates can't be much. Wouldn't they check it over anyway? It is not sensible for them to send it out with faults as the warranty covers 5 years.

Anyone with any experience of this?
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  • No you cannot. Is the short answer.

    The difference will be for delivery PDI an plates. Plus as you mentioned RFL and 1st registration fee. I doubt you will want to go and pick it up from the factory. If they don't PDI it the warranty won't be valid. And you (the customer) can't buy plates without a registration document.

    N.b I think you have a out of date price guide.
    OTR = £7095 and Retail = £6490
  • vikingaero
    vikingaero Posts: 10,920 Forumite
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    The main charge is for the delivery of the vehicle from the factory/importer/compund to the supplying dealer.

    The i10 is currently very popular and some dealers sell out of their allocations quite quickly. A few months ago it was one of the few cars being sold in the UK without any discount available. Even on Broadspeed.com it's showing as £534 off (£6,561 OTR)
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  • goldspanners
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    it might mean a trip to india to collect the car from the factory gates.
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  • martindow
    martindow Posts: 10,533 Forumite
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    OK I won't drive it back from India then.

    It is very misleading to quote a retail price at all if you cannot pay that amount. Rather like airline prices without taxes. I thought advertising material had to give actual prices that you need to pay.

    Thank you for all the responses.
  • Tis the industry standard whether it be right or wrong.

    I know up until about 18months ago Renault used to include the delivery and pdi costs in the retail price. So OTR road was Retail + RFL + 1st Reg Fee. But they changed too and now price in the same way as Kia. There must be some reason for that but i don't know what it is.
  • derrick
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    As a car has to have all the things mentioned above plus insurance, (not mentioned above), how can they call it an "OTR", when it is not legally "OTR" until insurance is valid? Yet you very rarely buy a car including insurance! Surely as insurance is a legal necessity they should not be able to make the OTR claim unless insurance is included!
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  • derrick wrote: »
    As a car has to have all the things mentioned above plus insurance, (not mentioned above), how can they call it an "OTR", when it is not legally "OTR" until insurance is valid? Yet you very rarely buy a car including insurance! Surely as insurance is a legal necessity they should not be able to make the OTR claim unless insurance is included!


    ???? Not sure i follow your logic here..... but to go with it maybe they should include the cost of driving lessons too!!!
  • derrick
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    ???? Not sure i follow your logic here..... but to go with it maybe they should include the cost of driving lessons too!!!

    My logic is that garages call the price for the vehicle as on OTR, including everything but the insurance, for a vehicle to be sold to joe public as OTR, it should include insurance as otherwise it is not an OTR price.

    To mention driving lessons is just plain daft, you have to assume that the purchaser has a licence, be that provisional or full, having said that, you can put a vehicle OTR without a licence as long as it includes tax and insurance, the driving licence only comes into play when it is actually driven.
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  • derrick wrote: »
    My logic is that garages call the price for the vehicle as on OTR, including everything but the insurance, for a vehicle to be sold to joe public as OTR, it should include insurance as otherwise it is not an OTR price.

    To mention driving lessons is just plain daft, you have to assume that the purchaser has a licence, be that provisional or full, having said that, you can put a vehicle OTR without a licence as long as it includes tax and insurance, the driving licence only comes into play when it is actually driven.

    Tis only as daft as your suggestion. The car will be insured by the dealerships blanket policy regardless of whether the owner has insurance for it at the time of sale. So theoretically for the OTR price it can be driven OTR by anyone covered by the dealerships policy.

    Also if IRRC you technically insure the person not the car. (i wait to be shot down in flames about that tho)
  • goldspanners
    goldspanners Posts: 5,910 Forumite
    derrick wrote: »
    As a car has to have all the things mentioned above plus insurance, (not mentioned above), how can they call it an "OTR", when it is not legally "OTR" until insurance is valid? Yet you very rarely buy a car including insurance! Surely as insurance is a legal necessity they should not be able to make the OTR claim unless insurance is included!

    when you buy a new car you get a weeks cover from the manufacturer to give you a chance to sort out your own,well ford do anyway. so it is legally on the road.
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