Bangernomics & Pre MOT checks?

harveybobbles

Barnsey737200 wrote: »

Hi all,

A kind friend of a friend is offering me a Renault Laguna in a pretty rubbish state (for nout)

Hope it's not this Laguna...

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1635067

vaio

KeithP wrote: »

Utter rubbish!!
You still have a valid MOT.
Please be kind enough to provide a citation.

If it fails then you do indeed still have a valid MOT which remains valid until its expiry.

You also have an unroadworthy car which is obviously illegal to drive on the highway

Does the police database record failures? I don’t know

anewman

Yep the piece of paper you get is simply a "refusal to provide an MOT test certificate" listing reasons why.

nomoneytoday

Volcano wrote: »

With some garages charging £150 per hour labour, an MOT is brilliant value for money for checking a car thouroughly. Also, you get someone trained and qualified using proper equipment and a complaints procedure if you're not happy.

All an MOT does is ensure a car is safe to a very minimum standard on a given day. It's not a replacement for a FSH, or good brakes, or new tyres

For example a tyre with 1.7mm of tread will pass, as will brake pads with 10% life left, but I wouldn't drive it...

Treadway1

KeithP wrote: »

Utter rubbish!!
You still have a valid MOT.
Please be kind enough to provide a citation.

Wow, I dont think there was any need for such hostility. Hey ho. :rolleyes:

Anyway, whilst I may not have worded my reply sufficiently for you to understand, the principle of what I was saying is still correct. If youre vehicle fails its MOT, then this failure will be recorded on the VOSA's computerised system for all legitimately interested parties (i.e. Police) to view. See

http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/repository/An%20FOI%20request%20for%20information%20relating%20to%20issue%20of%20VT20s%20and%20VT30s%20by%20MoT%20VTSs%20%20and%20computerisation.pdf#xml=http://www.vosa.gov.uk/SCRIPTS/texis.exe/webinator/search/xml.txt?query=failed+mot&pr=CORP&order=r&cq=&id=49ec06c651

Second page, second paragraph.

Therefore if you get pulled over by the police, youre vehicle may well have a PG9 prohibition notice put on it, depending on the seriousness of the defect, and you will be slapped with a fine.

So again, any new MOT result automatically supercedes an old one. I hope I have made this abundantly clear for you. No need to apologies.

:rolleyes:

Chippy_Minton_2

vaio wrote: »

Does the police database record failures?

No but VOSAs does, so therefore the police may have access to it on a multi-agency check and will know all the points it failed on.

vaio

Treadway1 wrote: »

……….Therefore if you get pulled over by the police, your vehicle may well have a PG9 prohibition notice put on it, depending on the seriousness of the defect, and you will be slapped with a fine.

So again, any new MOT result automatically supersedes an old one. I hope I have made this abundantly clear for you. No need to apologies.

:rolleyes:

Nah, “supersedes” mean replaces and that’s just not the case. An MOT certificate has an expiry date and is valid until that date whatever.

Driving having failed a test but with a still current certificate isn’t against the law.

Driving an un-roadworthy car is against the law irrespective of MOT status, a failed test (if they are recorded) on a car with a current ticket might give the police a “heads up” of a possibly un-roadworthy car but if the car had been repaired but not re-tested it would be completely legal.


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Ebe_Scrooge

For your situation, it may be worth doing an MOT yourself. No, I don't mean the full test, but you can find out what is tested during the MOT on many online sites - here's one at random :

http://www.ukmot.com/mot_check.asp

There will be things you can't check, like the emissions, but you should be able to run through most of the major points yourself. This will give you an idea of whether major repairs are going to be likely, and you'll then be in a better position to make a decision. The majority of checks are fairly simple for anyone to do.

Volcano

I think the credulity of your post was called into question because of this bit:

Treadway1 wrote: »

Remember though, if you put it through its MOT now and it fails, you wont be able to drive it any longer, despite the old MOT runnung out in a couple of months. Any new MOT result automatically supercedes an old one....

So despite your assertion that :

So again, any new MOT result automatically supercedes an old one. I hope I have made this abundantly clear for you.

That would be clearly incorrect.

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I've just put my old banger through it's MOT despite having 6 months left. A brake was binding, so I fixed it. If I choose not to resubmit my vehicle for MOT it's still roadworthy, still safe and still legal with 6 months valid MOT left on it. If I choose not to have my brake repair electronically recorded, then this doesn't render the vehicle dangerous.

(Even though obviously it would be sensible to get a new MOT, which I did).