Obama an idiot or just needs a history lesson

eeja

In his world wide press conference yesterday Obama referered to Bretton Woods being negotiated in July 1944 over a cigar between the chummy Churchill and Rosevelt .
Balderdash.!..
He should have known better than talk such nonsensense.
Bretton Woods was negotiated by 44 nations looking for a new World Financial System ( just as now ! ) and the two main negotiators were John Maynard Keynes (UK) and Harry Dexter White (USA.)
It is doubtful if Churchill ever attended and Rosevelt....he was a dying man with just 8 months to live.
Get your facts right Obama !

Stavros_3

Look on the bright side, Alistair Darling didn't think that the UK would enter a recession

scrounger_2

Stavros wrote: »

Look on the bright side, Alistair Darling didn't think that the UK would enter a recession

:rotfl:You`ve made my day!

sabretoothtigger

Roosevelt was active upto his death I think

Geoffo_M

What on earth has this go to do with savings

eeja

sabretoothtigger wrote: »

Roosevelt was active upto his death I think

Sure, but D-day , the Battle of the Pacific and the defeat of Japan and NOT Keyens's 'banco'r were on his mind. He could not even decide to bomb the railway line to Auschwits but instead allowed millions to be gassed in those final months . The USAF based in Italy could easily have stopped those transportations and saved millions of babies women and children especially from Hungary.
Obama's speechwriter was clealy too young to have even heard of Bretton Woods nor did he do his homework !!!

Masomnia

eeja wrote: »

Obama's speechwriter was clealy too young to have even heard of Bretton Woods nor did he do his homework !!!

Or he meant the Atlantic Charter.

asbokid

Too many expectations are placed in the President. Like the British Prime Minister, he is just one man. For a truer picture, we should look to the President as the head of the Presidential Office; an office which employs thousands of staffers, providing the President with expertise in many areas.

Of course, that too could be said of Keynes. He was simply a "liberal fascist" puppet - a front man for the central bankers and international financiers who infest Wall Street and the City of London.

One thing about Keynes that plucked my interest is his foreword to the German edition of his book, The General Theory. Keynes' book was published in 1936 and was received very badly, except in Nazi Germany.

In that foreword dated 7 September 1936, Keynes writes (in German)..

"The theory of aggregated production, which is the point of the following book, nevertheless can be much easier adapted to the conditions of a totalitarian state I]eines totalen Staates[/I than the theory of production and distribution of a given production put forth under conditions of free competition and a large degree of laissez-faire.

"I may, therefore, perhaps expect to meet with less resistance on the part of German readers than from English, when I submit to them a theory of employment and production as a whole which deviates in important particulars from the orthodox tradition.

A further point is that Keynes' General Theory, by his own admission, was closely modelled on the macroeconomic theories from the Chicago School. During the same era, the Nazi Crown Jurist, Carl Sch mitt, famously sponsored the studies of Leo Strauss at Chicago. Professor Leo Strauss, as he was later known, became the Godfather to the neo-Conservatives, spawning Wolfowitz, Libby, Kristol et al., all disciples of Strauss, Keynes, and the Chicago School.

It is interesting that extraordinary stock is put in these great legends like Keynes. The reality behind the great men is more often less than savory. The Great Peace-Maker, Bertrand Russell is proof in point. At the height of the Cold War, he made repeated calls for The Bomb to be dropped on Moscow! So not quite the venerable peacenik he's painted to be!

Returning to the 1944 Bretton Woods agreement, is there any evidence that Keynes, and his handlers, were satisfied with the outcome of the Conference?

Keynes was a puppet of the City, and Roosevelt was certainly no Anglophile, yet Roosevelt's Office was happy with the outcome of the 1944 Conference......

“Winston, when this war is over, there is not going to be any more British Empire! The empire is going to end. We’re going to take this vast machine, war machine that we built up, for the war, and we’re going to production of wealth. And we’re going to use that production of wealth by this conversion of our war machine, our economic war machine, to develop the reconstruction of countries which are war-torn, and countries which have been colonies, or semi-colonies. And we’re going to free these nations from semi-colonial conditions, with the great power we have in our war machine, if we convert it to the necessary forms of industrial development. -- FDR 1944.

Jimmyc

When obama said it i didnt realise he was being serious.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

Wasnt Churchill American as played by Christian Slater & the Enigma code was cracked by th CIA???

asbokid

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Wasnt Churchill American as played by Christian Slater & the Enigma code was cracked by the CIA???

Not according to the British Legend.

The Brits claim to have cracked Enigma in 1941, but kept it secret and sold the Enigma as a commercial high-strength encryption system right into the 1970s.

According to the Brits, this is how they discovered that Franco rigged the 1968 Eurovision Song Contest, robbing Cliff Richard of his victory.


See: Cache of 26 Enigma Machines discovered, El Pais, October 18, 2008.