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will investment companies now move the goalposts

Is it the case that Investments companies will now work very hard to drive our investments back up to worthwhile levels. I have an uncomfortable feeling they may be considering ways of closing our ISAs or whatever at their present low rates so that they need not strive to breath life into our diminished investments.
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  • Rafter
    Rafter Posts: 3,850 Forumite
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    Not sure I quite understand your question?

    Investment companies make money out of the management charges on your investments, so they have every incentive both to try and retain funds invested and to grow these so that their management charges increase?

    R.
    Smile :), it makes people wonder what you have been up to.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,811 Forumite
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    I have an uncomfortable feeling they may be considering ways of closing our ISAs

    An investment company has no control over your ISA. The ISA manager does and the ISA manager isnt where you invest (unless you happen to be in shares of the company that is also the ISA manager).
    or whatever at their present low rates

    Investments dont have rates. They have daily values.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • jdmchugh
    jdmchugh Posts: 20 Forumite
    When the gist of my question is obvious it is not really necessary to correct the terminology used . I had expected the creator of say an ISA to have some influence on its continuance.Thank you anyway.
  • gozomark
    gozomark Posts: 2,069 Forumite
    jdmchugh wrote: »
    When the gist of my question is obvious it is not really necessary to correct the terminology used .

    I think you mean IF not WHEN - I've no idea what you mean
  • RayWolfe
    RayWolfe Posts: 3,045 Forumite
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    - ditto -
  • nrsql
    nrsql Posts: 1,919 Forumite
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    Think the OP is suggesting that we might start to see a lot of the worst performing funds being closed or merged so that the historic performance disappears and the new funds can start from scratch and appear to have better performance as the catch any upturn.

    Would drive up the average performance of the sector, company, managed funds in general.
  • gozomark
    gozomark Posts: 2,069 Forumite
    fund performance is usually measured relative to other funds and to an index, not relative to cash, so closing funds because they are below their initial launch price is largely irrelevant
  • nrsql
    nrsql Posts: 1,919 Forumite
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    edited 5 April 2009 at 12:51PM
    gozomark wrote: »
    fund performance is usually measured relative to other funds and to an index, not relative to cash, so closing funds because they are below their initial launch price is largely irrelevant

    Not so - if a fund is doing badly compared to other funds or the sector and that fund gets closed and another opened then the bad fund disappears and the new fund has no history.

    It does happen and is one reason why companies introduce new funds.
  • gozomark
    gozomark Posts: 2,069 Forumite
    edited 5 April 2009 at 12:51PM
    nrsql wrote: »
    Not so - if a fund is dog badly compared to other funds or the sector and that fund gets closed and another opened then the bad fund disappears and the new fund has no history.

    It does happen and is one reason why companies introduce new funds.

    isn't that the same as I said ? its what I meant - funds get closed because of relative peer performance, not absolute performance
  • nrsql
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    Well -absolute performance has something to do with it too. If a fund is doing well in absolute terms but badly relative to the sector that can still be valuable to the company.
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