Any chance of a show aimed at childless people?

Leviathan2009

It does seem that I am in rather a harsh position being a single, caucausian male not from an ethnic background and in the 25 - 30 bracket.

The government does little for me as I am male, the law is biased against me (if I murder somebody it is because I am evil personified, if a woman does it she is insane and needs help). Im caucasian and not from an ethnic background so cannot benefit from positive discrimination. And having just turned 25 I am no longer eligible from the governments buckets of cash for apprenticeships. And I am too young to retire to take advantage of the state pension while it still exists. Having no children I do not get a legal entitlement to flexible working or maternity leave (which in my view should be wholly unpaid).

Paul_Herring

The government does little for me

Council tax benefit
Housing benefit
Working tax credit
DLA if applicable
ESA/Incapacity benefit/Income support if applicable
JSA if applicable

Leviathan2009

Paul_Herring wrote: »

Council tax benefit
Housing benefit
Working tax credit
DLA if applicable
ESA/Incapacity benefit/Income support if applicable
JSA if applicable

I earn just enough not be to be eligible for any benefits - Im also and fully functional ability wise.

And lets not forget the fact that I have to cover for two colleagues while they were on maternity leave - did I get any extra money? No. Did I get any recognition? No.

I'm just tired for picking up the tab for other peoples lax attitude to contraception or failure to save up for having a child. If you can't pay for it - don't have it.

Paul_Herring

And lets not forget the fact that I have to cover for two colleagues while they were on maternity leave - did I get any extra money? No. Did I get any recognition? No.

Which raises the possibly interesting question - were you actually getting more work done than normal? If so, were those colleagues actually required in the first place? If not, you're not really entitled to any extra pay.

or failure to save up for having a child. If you can't pay for it - don't have it.

That could be applied to so many things...

(You didn't address Council Tax Benefit btw - do you get this or is there more than just you living there?)

Leviathan2009

Paul_Herring wrote: »

Which raises the possibly interesting question - were you actually getting more work done than normal? If so, were those colleagues actually required in the first place? If not, you're not really entitled to any extra pay.

That could be applied to so many things...

(You didn't address Council Tax Benefit btw - do you get this or is there more than just you living there?)

Firstly - they were pregnant at two different times - essentially meant my work load was doubled in both occassions - with occassional temp help (for all the good it did). Im not against maternity leave - just don't pay em during it.

Secondly - I share a flat so we don't get a council tax rebate.

Thirdly - sure it could be applied to so many things. But if a guy drops his boxers and a woman drops her knickers for a quick fumble then pregnancy could happen (assuming they are fully functional). So they should have some kind of pregnancy insurance in place. I wouldn't drive a car without insurance, expecting everyone else to pick up the bill if I crash. Otherwise they should either be abstaining or birth controlled up to the eyeballs.

I don't want to be paying for somebody elses breeding habits. And please - dont start the "they will pay for your retirement" routine.

cheapscate

Children enable society to keep functioning. Without them eventually there would be no goods produced, no food, no shops and no services. The children of today grow up to be the tax payers and carers of our old age.
Without doubt having children is an enormous financial burden; sometimes in obvious ways such as clothing, food , gas and electricity and housing – but also in more hidden ways; so many mothers forsake their own career opportunities to raise their children and often find part time employment that is poorly paid and with few prospects. The cost of raising children should not just fall upon the parents – as it will be society as a whole who will benefit from these children, it should also be society as a whole who contribute to the cost of them.. If individuals do not want to be a part of a society that cares for the old and the ill then perhaps they should go and live somewhere that does not have the welfare benefits and services that are found in the developed world.

singlehouseholder

Soubrette wrote: »

Perks:

1. More income than a comparable child burdened couple (ie both can work and concentrate on their careers)

2. More disposable income than a comparable child burdened couple (even if you have the same income as a CCBC you do not have the endless drain that children are.

3. Less stress than CCBC, you don't have the responsibility of producing a productive member of society as opposed to the child's wishes of being King or Queen of the world.

4. Better holidays - taking holidays in school holiday is carp:mad: It is more expensive and more crowded

5. No parents evenings - thats got to be worth it all on its own - an evening spent rushing from appointment to appointment just to hear that your child is doing fine.

6. Always connected to the other parent - break up and have no children - blissful goodbye and hope never to see that idiot again - have children, tied to the idiot for life.

I'm sure there are many more - I'd not swap my girls for the world but there are definite pros to not having any

As to tax, can't help you there I'm afraid

Sou

Funny that I take my holidays out of season in October to avoid Children and without fail there will be screaming brats on the flight, then !!!!ed up parents with toddlers asleep in buggies inside pubs?

singlehouseholder

cheapscate wrote: »

Children enable society to keep functioning. Without them eventually there would be no goods produced, no food, no shops and no services. The children of today grow up to be the tax payers and carers of our old age.
Without doubt having children is an enormous financial burden; sometimes in obvious ways such as clothing, food , gas and electricity and housing – but also in more hidden ways; so many mothers forsake their own career opportunities to raise their children and often find part time employment that is poorly paid and with few prospects. The cost of raising children should not just fall upon the parents – as it will be society as a whole who will benefit from these children, it should also be society as a whole who contribute to the cost of them.. If individuals do not want to be a part of a society that cares for the old and the ill then perhaps they should go and live somewhere that does not have the welfare benefits and services that are found in the developed world.

Children are not ill or old, I have no problem whatsoever helping those that are unable to work due to illness or the elderly, neither do I have a problem helping give people from overseas a fresh start and a new life. I'm sure those who have made the choice to have children do so after careful consideration and don't do it to further mankind and society.
I work with mothers, who work part time but have exactly the same oppurtunities as me, a full timer, they have not "forsaken their career" and are paid the same salary!Infact you could say they have better oppurtunities than me, they are guarenteed the school holidays off work ,otherwise, "I'll have to bring little Timmy into work!" Mostly the best of the summer goes to parents but hey ho I'll help cover their work. I hope the children of today do grow up to work and contribute to future pension funds, really I do

Soubrette

singlehouseholder wrote: »

Children are not ill or old, I have no problem whatsoever helping those that are unable to work due to illness or the elderly, neither do I have a problem helping give people from overseas a fresh start and a new life. I'm sure those who have made the choice to have children do so after careful consideration and don't do it to further mankind and society.
I work with mothers, who work part time but have exactly the same oppurtunities as me, a full timer, they have not "forsaken their career" and are paid the same salary!Infact you could say they have better oppurtunities than me, they are guarenteed the school holidays off work ,otherwise, "I'll have to bring little Timmy into work!" Mostly the best of the summer goes to parents but hey ho I'll help cover their work. I hope the children of today do grow up to work and contribute to future pension funds, really I do

There is only three of us in my workplace and I'm the only one with children - one of the other women has booked off the whole of Aug. I have no idea why someone without children would want this time off but that's life.

Luckily my children are older but no consideration is given to me because I have children nor to other women with younger children in different depts. There is alot of part time work and the attitude is if you need time off because of children then you make it up (nothing wrong with that tbh). Also as a part timer any appointments have to be taken in my free time. Aug holiday woman has every monday off but still arranges her appointments in work time.

My point is that not all workplaces give any kind of priority to those with children - in ours it is based on seniority.

Sou

cheapscate

singlehouseholder wrote: »

Children are not ill or old, I have no problem whatsoever helping those that are unable to work due to illness or the elderly,

If you want the workforce to look after the sick and the ill you have to have children.

singlehouseholder wrote: »

I work with mothers, who work part time

You are obviously an expert on working mothers however the gender pay gap due to part time work is highlighted here http://www.metro.co.uk/money/article.html?UK_gender_pay_gap_among_Europes_highest&in_article_id=565958&in_page_id=36
Perhaps the women you work with would be at a higher level than you if they had not had children and taken on part time work.