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The_wanderer_returns_2
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My mother has depression and has never worked since she had us children. Whilst her depression is bad it is not enough to stop her from working. She is just playing on it. She is mearly scared to meet new people or try anything new at all.
My dad was the bread winner but then she left him for a much younger man. This young man was on JSA when he met my mother. They moved in together and my mum then somehow managed to claim income support with him as her "dependant". They get their rent paid for them, money off for bills, and lord knows what else.
How the hell is he her dependent!? He is capable of working but refuses to. She gets the benefit and he takes it away from her she is only aloud a bit of "pocket money".
I was wondering if there is any way of turning them in for this. They get the money but go out a lot. They save up for day trips 2-3 hours away by train. He spends a lot of the money on cds and both of them on electrical equipment.
It is making the whole family furious how they can get away with it?! Is there anything at all we can do? I am sick on my hard earned taxes going on these 2 lazy lay abouts :mad:
My dad was the bread winner but then she left him for a much younger man. This young man was on JSA when he met my mother. They moved in together and my mum then somehow managed to claim income support with him as her "dependant". They get their rent paid for them, money off for bills, and lord knows what else.
How the hell is he her dependent!? He is capable of working but refuses to. She gets the benefit and he takes it away from her she is only aloud a bit of "pocket money".
I was wondering if there is any way of turning them in for this. They get the money but go out a lot. They save up for day trips 2-3 hours away by train. He spends a lot of the money on cds and both of them on electrical equipment.
It is making the whole family furious how they can get away with it?! Is there anything at all we can do? I am sick on my hard earned taxes going on these 2 lazy lay abouts :mad:
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Do us all a favour and call the National Benefit Fraud Hotline 0800 854 4400
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But how can they prove it is fraud? Do they need to know who I am? What if i'm wrong?0
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The National Benefit Fraud Hotline is free and confidential.
I don't know what details they'll ask you for as I've never had occasion to ring it - but I would do so if I knew someone was claiming benefits fraudulently.
I think your problem may lie here:
If this has been discussed between you and other members of the family, what happens if someone lets slip to your Mum that it was YOU who reported them?The_wanderer_returns wrote: »It is making the whole family furious how they can get away with it?! Is there anything at all we can do? I am sick on my hard earned taxes going on these 2 lazy lay abouts :mad:
Of course, you may not mind if that caused a family rift, it's just something to consider if you do go ahead.0 -
Do us all a favour and call the National Benefit Fraud Hotline 0800 854 440
But if they are not working then it is not necessarily fraud. And if she is claiming & he does not work, then he is her dependant, according to the rules.
By the way, is it fraud to save up your income & then go out for the day or go on holiday? Or to spend one's own money on whatever you wish?
I think the OP's issue is with the mother's new partner & his influence on her.0 -
It doesn't sound like fraud to me, and being afraid to try something new or go to work is a disability. Ok, in an ideal world she should receive help and counselling and training, but whilst there are not enough jobs out there for people who want to work, I don't have a problem with her not working.
What a lovely loyal nature you must have to want to shop your mother...0 -
It doesn't sound like fraud to me, and being afraid to try something new or go to work is a disability. Ok, in an ideal world she should receive help and counselling and training, but whilst there are not enough jobs out there for people who want to work, I don't have a problem with her not working.
What a lovely loyal nature you must have to want to shop your mother...
No it isn't. Jesus this country is screwed lol.
I won't open the depression can of worms but lets just say if all the people claiming to be depressed on benefit were very real and serious cases then we would have an epidemic. They aren't and we haven't. This is particularly a problem with people who started claiming this 15+ years ago and have slipped through the net since.
To the OP, I'm not sure reporting them is going to get you anywhere because it's not really fraud. I wouldn't worry though because the jig is up for these types of peeps. Especially if the tories get in!..."I always pass on good advice. It is the only thing to do with it. It is never of any use to oneself" -Oscar Wilde0 -
Surly claiming him as her dependant is fraud though as he isn't he is her partner. I wouldn't have thought that you would have anything to lose by calling the fraud hotline annoymously.
Glossgal I agree, I think part of the problem sometimes must be fear of returning to work, after all I find it a bit worrying going back to work after a couple of days off with the flu, let alone a few years off!! Sometimes its all about being brave enough to take that first step.2009 wins: Cadburys Chocolate Pack x 6, Sally Hansen Hand cream, Ipod nano! mothers day meal at Toby Carvery! :j :j :j :j0 -
I an classed as my husband's dependent for certain things as I have no income. I am his wife AND his dependent. So this in itself is not fraudulent.
If they have only money from Benefits, then they will be entitled to have certain rent/council tax allowances. So this is not necessarily fraudulent.
Going for days out or spending their money on CDs is also not fraudulent and neither is him only allowing her pocket money.
I agree with the poster who said you appear to have issues with your mother having a new partner.(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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I can see why you're frustrated with this situation but you may find a way of managing it if you can understand what your Mum sees in this loser. Maybe it's because he treats her nicely and doesn't judge? Do you?Value-for-money-for-me-puhleeze!
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