Cameron 'sorry' for being asleep at the wheel

Kenny4315

Dan: wrote: »

Cameron or Brown???? Not a great choice for this next election, is it?

It's like the option of whether to have your gonads chopped off with

a chainsaw or
a carving knife

Spartacus_Mills

Decadent_Fool wrote: »

His comment annoyed me because it just struck me purely as point scoring against Brown, as he hasn't apologised. We don't need point scoring, we need a viable alternative (whichever party that may be). Like you said Dan:, not a great choice

I can see the second part of your name is well deserved. :money:

arcalis

Let me get this right, he's apologising for something he didn't see coming, along with most people, for something he had no power to influence anyway. Meaningless.

Another conundrum i can't understand. As Labour have been implementing all these right-wing Think Tank policies (that the Tories would introduce) and the country is going to !!!!!! who is actually at fault. I'm confused.com.

amcluesent

Of course while NuLabour's corrupt sham appeared successful, the BBC fell over themselves to give a platform to shout-down anyone who said otherwise.

From 1997 to 2008, the 'Today' programme's Labour loving presenters would screech about unspeakably wicked 'cuts' if anyone mentioned the bloated public sector or the stealth taxes.

If you listened the BBC NuPropoganda, you'd think getting taxation under control would be condemning children to rickets and working down t'pit.

Rochdale_Pioneers

CLAPTON wrote: »

Presumably Cameron is saying that if the Tories had been in power then they too would have allowed this economic disaster to have occurred.. maybe even worse as they believe in deregulation as a central belief.

Essentially that. He's just positioned his party as one that cheered the government on all the way and berated them for not having gone further (Cameron's speeches criticising "Brown the great Regulator", that famous Redwood proposal to fully deregulate the mortgage market).

Not sure that I understand the tactic. So now everytime he attaks Brown, can't he have it slapped back with "and you supported it" much as their late-hours conversion to anti-Iraq played out?

CLAPTON wrote: »

The Tories, like Labour, are a disgrace.

I will not be voting for either.

Sadly our electoral system doesn't allow you that opt-out as a choice of government. After the election we will have either a Labour government or a Tory government - with a chance of one or the other being propped up by the LibDems (who will demand PR as they have elsewhere - will Labour or the Tories concede?). Its rubbish but thats the way it is.

sabretoothtigger

He should be apologising and conceding power for judgements of this kind to vince cable but that would stop it being a self promoting and worthless political gesture

Zagu

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

After the election we will have either a Labour government or a Tory government - with a chance of one or the other being propped up by the LibDems (who will demand PR as they have elsewhere

Or possibly forget that they ever mentioned it, like Labour did.

"We are committed to a referendum on the voting system for the House of Commons."

the.ciscokid

stevetodd wrote: »

I wouldn't vote for someone who shoots deer for sport and wants to bring back fox hunting

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/now-its-dave-the-deadly-deer-stalker-437853.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1543823/Revealed-Cameron-the-deer-hunter.html

Seriously?

baileysbattlebus

Zagu wrote: »

Or possibly forget that they ever mentioned it, like Labour did.

"We are committed to a referendum on the voting system for the House of Commons."

An independent commission on voting systems will be appointed early to recommend a proportional alternative to the first-past-the-post system.

you missed the rest of the paragraph. There was a report by the Independant Commission on the voting system in 1998.

Here it is if you want to read it.

http://www.archive.official-documents.co.uk/document/cm40/4090/contents.htm

Needless to say a referendum was never held - nor would it be under the Conservatives who oppose any change in the current system. I think the only people to support a change in the system are the Liberals - it would give them a few more seats.

The report is interesting in that it looked back to previous elections and using a new system - the winners would have won and 2nd place would still have been 2nd and 3rd would still have been 3rd - but with fewer seats for 1st and 2nd and more for 3rd, 4th, 5th etc.

sabretoothtigger

pr is a crap system imo, one party needs definite control upon winning or it paralyses the process of government. They already argue enough among themselves