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Biggest population in Europe?

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  • Optimist
    Optimist Posts: 4,557 Forumite
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    Excellent article in the new statesman about world over population with some particularly telling points on the UK

    Partially copied below but the whole piece is worth a read

    "Under the impact of an upward twist in birth rates and record levels of immigration, which now accounts for over two-thirds of population increase, numbers are rising at rates not seen since the baby-boom days. Government statisticians tell us that the UK’s population, six or seven million in 1750, 50 million in 1950 and 61 million today, will reach 85 million in 2081, with no sign of levelling off. And why should it, when we live in a globalised and globally warmed world with potentially millions of environmental refugees heading our way – making the British Isles, as the environmental guru James Lovelock puts it, one of the planet’s lifeboats?

    Against this background, it is hardly surprising that the population issue has been reignited, at least at grass-roots level, as millions of us, particularly in the south-east of England, experience crowding and congestion every day and read in our newspapers, as we strap-hang on some packed commuter train, that it is going to get worse. Last September, England was confirmed as the most densely populated of all the larger countries in the EU: only Malta is more crowded. It is also not surprising that, among the political classes, the immigration component of population growth has led to silence on the issue as a whole – after all, who wants to be accused of racism? But never underestimate the power of cognitive dissonance: that human facility, only too familiar in matters of a green nature, to think one thing but do the opposite. In this respect the Daily Mail, which fulminates against higher den!sities, but describes those in favour of limiting family size as green zealots, may be all too representative of Middle England."

    http://www.newstatesman.com/global-issues/2009/03/world-population-billion-human
    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."

    Bertrand Russell. British author, mathematician, & philosopher (1872 - 1970)
  • Old_Slaphead
    Old_Slaphead Posts: 2,749 Forumite
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    Britain could have the biggest population in Europe by 2050 and be the third biggest recipient of migrants in the world, UN projections suggest.

    It would mean by 2050, Britain would have a population of nearly 72.4 million - overtaking Germany on 70.5 million as Europe's largest country.

    Well done beeb - most reliable sources give Germany's current population at just over 82 million !!!!

    Still, don't let facts get in the way of a good story.
  • BRITAIN IS FULL !!!


    So is Cornwall !!!!




    I know.

    I was up until 5am trying to find a rental cottage in good nic with open fire & 2 double rooms near Looe & available for 5 days from the 30th March that would allow a very small dog!!

    Can I F find anything under £300!!
    Not Again
  • Radiantsoul
    Radiantsoul Posts: 2,096 Forumite
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    Well done beeb - most reliable sources give Germany's current population at just over 82 million !!!!

    Still, don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

    German population is projected to decline dramatically over the next 40 years.
  • maninthestreet
    maninthestreet Posts: 16,127 Forumite
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    Where are these 20 million going to live, and where are they going to work???
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
  • robin_banks
    robin_banks Posts: 15,778 Forumite
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    Where are these 20 million going to live, and where are they going to work???

    Barrow-in-Furness
    "An arrogant and self-righteous Guardian reading tvv@t".

    !!!!!! is all that about?
  • Old_Slaphead
    Old_Slaphead Posts: 2,749 Forumite
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    German population is projected to decline dramatically over the next 40 years.


    So it does - thanks RS
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Barrow-in-Furness

    Excellent. Barrow goes from being Northern Hellhole to one of the greatest cities the world has ever known as a result of mass migration within 20 years!

    I look forward to Tottenham being beaten in the ECL final by Barrow AFC in the not too distant future.

    ;-)
  • dervish
    dervish Posts: 926 Forumite
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    Something needs to be done about "your sort"

    On another thread you were whining you couldn't buy a holiday home. Two homes for one person is pure greed.

    Shut up, or at least stick to fighting one side of an argument.

    You can't complain everywhere's overcrowded AND moan you can't find a second home for the occasional weekend away.

    I see no need to resort to personal attacks.

    Discuss the issues at hand - not the lives of fellow MSErs. :(

    Also better for British people to have 2 homes in this country than to accpet the multitidnous raft of problems that unchecked immigration brings.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    dervish wrote: »
    I see no need to resort to personal attacks.

    Discuss the issues at hand - not the lives of fellow MSErs. :(

    Also better for British people to have 2 homes in this country than to accpet the multitidnous raft of problems that unchecked immigration brings.

    Immigration to the UK is limited, at least when it comes to potential migrants from outside the EU.

    Play the ball not the (wo)man, fair enough. Also, let's stick to facts rather than getting lost in hyperbole.
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