the daydream fund challenge thread

lostinrates

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Without looking it up, you are allowed to despatch your own poultry at home, or up to a certain number of birds, or for your own consumption, but once you start doing it on a larger scale, or (and this is the bit) as a business.......... you need to be a slaughterhouse. And I think that's full stop.
Happy to be proved wrong.

Maybe you mean a travelling dispatcher. I can see there may be a possibility of a job there, very very part time and you don't want to go travelling too far I would have thought. Not sure on the legal aspects, but as long as the owner eats or despatches of the carcass themselves, could be a goer. Again, nothing but pin money in it though, I would have thought.

I haven't got a clue what the regs are ...and I wrote a paper on it about ten years ago!:o:o:o


I think people would pay you know, not a lot but I bet you could get get 10-15 per bird. but whether it covered the fuel...dunno. You could claim mileage though for that and plan your route well.

Davesnave

DW says she wouldn't get much pleasure from that kind of job, and whatever she does has to be a pleasure!

I agree, but it's great to hear others' opinions on what might make a rural niche business. Thanks.

Feeling more perky today, or I did until we had some relatives call in.....:(;)

RAS

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Without looking it up, you are allowed to despatch your own poultry at home, or up to a certain number of birds, or for your own consumption, but once you start doing it on a larger scale, or (and this is the bit) as a business.......... you need to be a slaughterhouse. And I think that's full stop.
Happy to be proved wrong.

I think this is correct for England as well as Scotland (from Stonehead)

However, UK law says we can only slaughter and butcher on farm for our own consumption. We are not permitted to sell the meat if we slaughter the animals ourselves. We are not permitted to sell the meat unless its been butchered in a licensed cutting premises.

alfie_1

hi all

well number one....i get the local game keeper to dispatch any fowl. LIR did you mean £10-£15 per bird ??

number two, i am so jealous of all your endeavours, planting wise today.... i have only planted my butt on a chair painting miniature railway buildings all day !!

Lotus-eater

Davesnave wrote: »

I agree, but it's great to hear others' opinions on what might make a rural niche business. Thanks.

The truth is Dave, I really don't know the answer to that one and I've been thinking about it for a decade

But.... if you do get an idea, maybe be a little careful about revealing it on the net. Saying that, all the good ideas seem to be in rural smallholding idealistic books anyway. You need something new and as you say niche, very difficult. Something your skills can be used in seems obvious, so why don't you run a specialised nursery in something.

Oh hangon :rotfl:

lostinrates

Lotus-eater wrote: »

The truth is Dave, I really don't know the answer to that one and I've been thinking about it for a decade

But.... if you do get an idea, maybe be a little careful about revealing it on the net. Saying that, all the good ideas seem to be in rural smallholding idealistic books anyway. You need something new and as you say niche, very difficult. Something your skills can be used in seems obvious, so why don't you run a specialised nursery in something.

Oh hangon :rotfl:

I have oppertunities, but the think is mine are all too tie consuming too be options now. e.g. I was approached via a friend of the family for a poutry related business shortly after moving. In practise it would be great, but in realty I just don't have time to persue it ATM with other stuff going on.

A really good one, if ethics allow, with some serious profit in it for small holdings, is raising game birds. Most small holders aren't interested in that though, and feel the raising part is what the have been wanting to get away from in their own meat. But it has good potential. Its seasonal though and tough for people like Davesnave not just raising food but raising saleable nursery plants too.

My income stream atm would be £75 a week, but I have a LETS style arrangement for more than half of that.

the thing is our approach will be multipronged...a little bit in there, a little bit in here....but to do that we have to be smoothly operating in other areas first. e.g. things like watering take ages atm because I haven't got the right fitting on the outflow, and it can' be reasonably changed till the kitchen etc done. It took me two and half hours to bath two horses today because he fitting kept popping off. :mad:

In reality, most of you are so much handier that the things here like that would be easily heath robinsoned. I dread DH attempting a heath robinson because it takes him hours but goes wrong five mins after he's finished .

Handiness is certainly the biggest asset and cost capper on a small holding I think!

Lotus-eater

lostinrates wrote: »

I have oppertunities, but the think is mine are all too tie consuming too be options now. e.g. I was approached via a friend of the family for a poutry related business shortly after moving. In practise it would be great, but in realty I just don't have time to persue it ATM with other stuff going on.

It's a difficult one, because on one hand, most people need some sort of external income to run a smallholding, yet if you spend all your time building up a business, then aren't you putting at risk the very ideals which sent you there in the first place?

One view I will take if I ever get a SH, is that it will be like a lifetime hobby, so although we would have to get some external income from somewhere, the SH won't have to pay for itself. I will enjoy it just for it being it.

lostinrates

Lotus-eater wrote: »

It's a difficult one, because on one hand, most people need some sort of external income to run a smallholding, yet if you spend all your time building up a business, then aren't you putting at risk the very ideals which sent you there in the first place?

One view I will take if I ever get a SH, is that it will be like a lifetime hobby, so although we would have to get some external income from somewhere, the SH won't have to pay for itself. I will enjoy it just for it being it.

Yeah. we love our place but need a City income to do it ....here this part of the country, with the other stuff of life...international families etc.

Well mixed news, we've id'd bats here. We have 'em. No getting away from it. Pleased they are here but why do they have to be on our planned attic bedrooms?

alfie_1

Lotus-eater wrote: »

It's a difficult one, because on one hand, most people need some sort of external income to run a smallholding, yet if you spend all your time building up a business, then aren't you putting at risk the very ideals which sent you there in the first place?

One view I will take if I ever get a SH, is that it will be like a lifetime hobby, so although we would have to get some external income from somewhere, the SH won't have to pay for itself. I will enjoy it just for it being it.

i personally agree with this... i had a dollshouse shop which i had never in a million years shown the slightest interest in the subject ! i was helping a lady get a "house" into her room from the car,chortling away that a "grown up" wanted this thing! i saw all the home made things and was fascinated ! i went to a big show in birmingham a week later. i talked my way to getting a little shop with no capital and not a clue...i opened up 6 weeks from the start of it all:D... i had to bluff my stock, put plants everywhere to make shop look full ! I LOVED IT.... never think there is not something you are good at. it can take you by surprise... i made so many good friends through the shop . alas through a "partner change" i had to give it up. i would never have been rich but by gum i enjoyed it.:) i was like blue peter on speed making weird and wonderfull things.....havnt a clue what part of my brain had absorbed these skills but they emerged.
so, sorry bit long winded..., but my point is that making LOTS of money can be at the expense of actually enjoying what you do. me, i'd rather have a damn good laugh than be miserable rich. [happy and rich is still possible..;)]
i have kept animals all my life, i enjoy them,i value them and dont care if its a false economy in some eyes....:)

alfie_1

LIR.... your PM file is stuffed and not receiving anymore !!!:rotfl:
so
do you know if AM or PM tmorow??:)