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have i been totally unrealistic?

hi all, made my first offer on a house today :j :j :j :j :j

although i think the vendors e.a are playing stupid beggars :rolleyes:

i've posted on here before there is one i cannot stand and i only went and fell in love with a house they were selling, went to view, needed work which was not on details that it was in need of modernisation or repair, fair enough i thought.

anyway made an offer at 10% below asking price, it has been on market for about a year, is vacant but owner still owns it himself. first e.a person i spoke to very helpful, said they would put the offer to the vendor and hopefully get back to me today.
about an hour later ''she'' rang :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: she being the e.a from hell, patronises me cos i am young with a relatively small budget and wont go and view their collection of shared ownership flats. anyway she says that she doesnt think the vendor will take the offer but will phone him and ask anyway, and there have been other viewings :rolleyes:

1. i know they havent had lots of demand for viewings, he went to the house especially to show me round and that was 1 week ago
2. the first person said she would phone the vendor- shouldnt they at least get their stories straight?

anyway about half an hour later, dragon called back, its been declined, they will take about 3% under asking price- which doesnt even cover the cost of the work that e.a never mentioned needed doing, i personally think she has been encouraging them to hold out for more money
things arent the way they were before, you wouldnt even recognise me anymore- not that you knew me back then ;)
BH is my best mate too, its ok :)

I trust BH even if he's from Manchester.. ;)

all your base are belong to us :eek:
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  • sooz
    sooz Posts: 4,560 Forumite
    Ignore how the EA behaves. They are agents for the vendor, not for you, & it IS their job to get the best possible price for their client.

    However, I think they are obliged to pass on ALL offers, regardless of what they 'think'. ;) Be polite, stay professional, state what IYO needs doing to the place, & confirm your offer in writing.
    What is the maximum you want to pay for the house? Was it 10% less? Then you should have started by offering even less. If you are happy to pay 5% less, they'll probably meet you in the middle.
    Make all offers subject to survey, & then let the surveyor's report help you to negotiate your offer price down further, if more work needs doing.
  • before_hollywood
    before_hollywood Posts: 20,686 Forumite
    i've increased a bit now and made a final offer, its still about 5-7% less than what they want but its decision time for them, as i am prepared to walk away if its declined
    things arent the way they were before, you wouldnt even recognise me anymore- not that you knew me back then ;)
    BH is my best mate too, its ok :)

    I trust BH even if he's from Manchester.. ;)

    all your base are belong to us :eek:
  • Bethankim
    Bethankim Posts: 1,030 Forumite
    I am selling my house and if we are offered 5% below asking price i would take it. It depends on how realistically its been priced - how does it compare to other houses.

    we have ours on 20K below anything else near by - 2 reasons it doesnt have off road parking and it does need a bit of work (only cosmetic) had 4 viewings so far in 2 weeks but no offer yet..grrr the no off road parking is a sticking point,.

    you know what you can spend, and your offer of 5% below sounds fair. fingers crossed for you.

    For me its a fine balance i know people want a good deal when they are buying, but i also know what my bottom line is.
    BR 2nd April 2009
    Feel the fear and do it anyway!




  • before_hollywood
    before_hollywood Posts: 20,686 Forumite
    Bethankim wrote: »
    I am selling my house and if we are offered 5% below asking price i would take it. It depends on how realistically its been priced - how does it compare to other houses.

    we have ours on 20K below anything else near by - 2 reasons it doesnt have off road parking and it does need a bit of work (only cosmetic) had 4 viewings so far in 2 weeks but no offer yet..grrr the no off road parking is a sticking point,.

    you know what you can spend, and your offer of 5% below sounds fair. fingers crossed for you.

    For me its a fine balance i know people want a good deal when they are buying, but i also know what my bottom line is.
    its horrid, i've felt nautious all afternoon from the worry, and now i wont find out till tomorrow a.m at the earliest :eek:

    sellers e.a is always horrid with me so when i upped the offer a family member phoned up, said i had been called in for something work related and they had given me a loan towards my deposit for the difference.
    this was mainly because when i phoned up to put in the first offer her colleague answered, was nice as pie to me and then the one from hell phoned up to say she thought the offer was too low, the vendor wouldnt take it but she would speak to him anyway
    things arent the way they were before, you wouldnt even recognise me anymore- not that you knew me back then ;)
    BH is my best mate too, its ok :)

    I trust BH even if he's from Manchester.. ;)

    all your base are belong to us :eek:
  • Teacher2301
    Teacher2301 Posts: 407 Forumite
    If the vendor is desparate to sell then any offer will be taken seriously. Like a previous poster said - be professional, it's your money so spend if carefully.

    If you really dislike the eastate agent then say you want to deal with another person - most ea's have a commision of about 1.5% so that's a lot of money for someone and it may make the rude member of staff think twice - remember 1.5% on the average house price (say £160,000) is £2400 +vat - and at 10% less, the commision would only be £2160 - £240 less - that could hurt if its the only sale that week. Money talks as they say!!!!
    'Proud To Be Dealing With My Debts' : Member number 632
    Nerds rule! :cool:
  • geoffky
    geoffky Posts: 6,835 Forumite
    You Have Offered Too Much..prices Are Dropping 2k A Month On The Average Price House....think About It...
    It is nice to see the value of your house going up'' Why ?
    Unless you are planning to sell up and not live anywhere, I can;t see the advantage.
    If you are planning to upsize the new house will cost more.
    If you are planning to downsize your new house will cost more than it should
    If you are trying to buy your first house its almost impossible.
  • lethal0r
    lethal0r Posts: 408 Forumite
    I would have thought hardly anyone offers less than 10% below right now.

    Im seeing my first house tomorrow, hopefully the EA wont be a berk.
  • before_hollywood
    before_hollywood Posts: 20,686 Forumite
    geoffky wrote: »
    You Have Offered Too Much..prices Are Dropping 2k A Month On The Average Price House....think About It...
    i have paperwork from the e.a from when they took it on, he has dropped about 20% on a house that is half the price of an average house if he takes todays offer
    things arent the way they were before, you wouldnt even recognise me anymore- not that you knew me back then ;)
    BH is my best mate too, its ok :)

    I trust BH even if he's from Manchester.. ;)

    all your base are belong to us :eek:
  • before_hollywood
    before_hollywood Posts: 20,686 Forumite
    lethal0r wrote: »
    I would have thought hardly anyone offers less than 10% below right now.

    Im seeing my first house tomorrow, hopefully the EA wont be a berk.
    i have offered about 8% below as a realistic offer, i offered 15% below and was pretty much laughed out by e.a

    i cant really say too much about it but its not in an expensive town, my parents viewed on my behalf on somewhere (i am a ftb in my 20s and was working, e.a wouldnt give a viewing on my day off) and the house was overpriced at 60k, and i mean vastly overpriced
    things arent the way they were before, you wouldnt even recognise me anymore- not that you knew me back then ;)
    BH is my best mate too, its ok :)

    I trust BH even if he's from Manchester.. ;)

    all your base are belong to us :eek:
  • mark5
    mark5 Posts: 1,364 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Just because someone offers less than 10% below the asking price doesnt mean they are getting a bad deal its possible they are getting a better deal than someone getting a house at 20% below asking price.

    It all depends on how competitive the selling price was to begin with and if the op really likes the house then maybe its worth the extra few thousand to them.

    The main thing is the OP being able to afford the house and being happy with the deal they get, if the offer is accepted!

    Goodluck!
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