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Is we've no work for you anymore the same as redundancy ?

Does my employer think by not saying your redundant they don't have to pay ?

Last week I came into work and with no notice was told this week you can work for half pay and you'd better start looking for a job elsewhere. By the looks of things my P45 has not been issued and there waiting for me to ask for it.

Maybe thats how they think they can avoid 8yrs redandany pay and possibly 8 weeks of pay for not giving correct notice.

Looking on the web I see if the company has gone insolvant I'd get paid all the above from the NI scheme but the company is still trading just with huge cash flow problems.

Can anybody point me in the right direction please.
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  • maninthestreet
    maninthestreet Posts: 16,127 Forumite
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    If it's not redundancy, it sounds like you have been constructively dismissed.
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
  • Odette
    Odette Posts: 716 Forumite
    This has never happened to me but I would contact Citizens Advice as well as the jobcentre and apply for jobseekers asap, especially if your working hours are below 16.

    Good luck at this trying time.
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  • tecnobaz
    tecnobaz Posts: 7 Forumite
    No, you miss understood me a full weeks work for half pay !!!

    Looking around on gov and acas websites I'd need to have 4 weeks of this before I could ask for redundancy from my employer. I simply cant afford to do that.
  • real1314
    real1314 Posts: 4,432 Forumite
    tecnobaz wrote: »
    No, you miss understood me a full weeks work for half pay !!!

    Looking around on gov and acas websites I'd need to have 4 weeks of this before I could ask for redundancy from my employer. I simply cant afford to do that.

    Can you afford not to?
  • liney
    liney Posts: 5,121 Forumite
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    Would working all week for half the pay put you under the National Minimum Wage?
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  • i'd go to the Citizans Advice asap and see what your rights are mate, whatever you do good luck!
  • Halloway
    Halloway Posts: 1,612 Forumite
    It does sound like your employer is trying to force as many people as possible out without having to pay redundancy. I think you are being stitched up. Your employer cannot arbitrarily and unilaterally cut your wages like this without prior consultation. Go and see the good folks at CAB because this does look like constructive dismissal.

    http://www.workingrights.co.uk/can-employer-cut-wages-without-warning.html
  • webtalk
    webtalk Posts: 213 Forumite
    tecnobaz wrote: »
    No, you miss understood me a full weeks work for half pay !!!

    Looking around on gov and acas websites I'd need to have 4 weeks of this before I could ask for redundancy from my employer. I simply cant afford to do that.
    Be careful. I think if you show any interest in redundancy you scupper your chances of unemployment benefits. Something to do with 'willfully unemployed'.

    Smacks of constructive dismissal. Get this all in writing - including reasons.
  • Basically your company cant just decide to pay you half a weeks pay for a full weeks work. Do you have a contract of employment in place?

    It would amount to breach of contract as well as unlawful deduction of wages.

    If there is a contractual right - they can impose a 'lay off' - where they can pay you 21.50 per day for the first 5 days and then nothing thereafter.

    I think this is what you were referring to - if this is the case and nothing changes for 4 weeks you can claim redundancy. But there has to be something in your contract to say they can impose a lay-off - or it has to have been made contractual through custom and practice.

    I would definately go to citizens advice, or see if you have legal cover on your home insurance, or go to a no win no fee solicitor.
  • No pay at all :( and I now have my P45 with no letter to explain why. Just a here you go goodbye.
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