mr brown really mr bean in disguise

littlemrtinkle

i quite like the sock puppets

mewbie_2

littlemrtinkle wrote: »

i quite like the sock puppets

So do I. But I tell my wife I'm researching important financial information on here and a picture of someone's willy warmer smiling out does not help my cause.

Wookster

Halloway wrote: »

Graham, old chap:

could you summarise for us what would you have done differently over the last (say) five years?

Well I'm not Graham but Crash could have had the BoE target the RPI instead of the CPI. That would have seen interest rates at least 2 percentage points higher and consequently much less HPI and much less debt would have been taken on privately and by corporates meaning Britain's exposure would have been much less serious.

It seems as Rochdale simply cannot grasp the fact that things could have been done to lessen the impact of the financial crisis on the UK.

ManAtHome

Wookster wrote: »

Well I'm not Graham but Crash could have...

Probably not - he'd abolished boom+bust and never made a mistake during his time as a politician, so he coudn't have done anything (it's all somebody else's fault).

dacouch

I wonder if he is gonna do a Blair and pass on the leadership to someone else equally as inept just as more crap is about to hit the fan. Blair had the amazingly contracdictory job as peace envoy to the middle east. Perhaps Brown could be made Banking envoy...

bubblesmoney

on a lighter note here is a nice cartoon of brown.

http://www.politicalcartoons.com/cartoon/55d5c217-fe78-43b7-b057-1f5398873fda.html

chopperharris

From what I gather the gold reserves were sold off to pay off debt fast , and if it wasnt then we would never have been able to have CREDIT in the amount needed NOW.

I dont like the guy for a whole load of different reasons , but the op is off the mark.The fact is that there was a global financial "happening" , our banks were in up to their ears , if they failed we would have been right royally donald ducked.To say they are sick of hearing it wont change that it happened , and it is the only reason of fault.

The Main reason why I cant stand the guy is that he like the rest of the nulabour arent actually labour , they arent a workers party , and havent been for some time.

Another is that for all the "scots" crap flying about he isnt for the scots people that originally voted him in that want independance , despite what his lowly employees in the scots parliament say they have to tow his line.....saying to the voter yes we want independance to get the vote away from snp only.

I would suggest that for an embarassing look at labour altogether one should watch pmq of alex salamonder .He cringeworthly highlights at everyopportunity the failures of scots labourites , in london , scotland and every council.A perfect example is that of recent alchohol laws in scotland , all parties bemoaned that there was no real movement on adressing the situation of alchohol abuse , yet voted against measures at every opportunity.Now scots will have the most expensive booze in the uk....no doubt as the fit hits the shan at supermarket and licence grocers smp's will be backtracking as jobs and profit will suffer.

Generali

mewbie wrote: »

It was good seeing Mandy pasted today though wasn't it?

Brilliant viewing. Makes be proud to be a Pom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwnruC2PmCk&feature=related

vivatifosi

Generali wrote: »

Brilliant viewing. Makes be proud to be a Pom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwnruC2PmCk&feature=related

I was just watching the paper review on Sky. One of the papers had a caption under the photo of 'Slime Minister'. This has been an apt name for Mandleson for some time, nice to see it confirmed.

Rochdale_Pioneers

Graham_Devon wrote: »

You seem to have again, completely missed the fact, that the things listed, were indeed, unique to the UK and gone off on a tangent about it's global again.

Tell me I don't understand, as usual, if you like. But seriously. Before going off on brown auto pilot defend mode, try reading the points made?

No I get that they were "unique" to the UK. Its just that the same things were also "unique" to so many other countries at the same time. Like I said, knock the man for what he did wrong. Selling the gold off was a good idea at the time, but turned out to be moronically stupid. Our regulatory structure which was lauded and copied in so many other countries quite patently failed miserably. So yes, knock him for all that - but what exactly would have been done differently.

We know from places like Spain that having a tight regulation of banks did sod all in stopping this crash - they're in it worse than we are in terms of output drops and unemployment. And they're spending oceans of cash as we are. What they're not doing is bailing out their banks as they don't need it.

Now, had we copied their system, and London had been hammered this last decade as business went to New York and Germany and everywhere else with their deregulated systems, what would the political reaction have been? The city as a collective, the Tories, the press - would they have been cheering on Brown's tight regulation? Or would they have been a wall of abuse complaining about "Brown the great regulator" as Cameron put it?

Its all very well being wise after the event. I don't remember hearing a wall of criticism of what Brown and everyone else was doing at the time. A couple of lonely voices yes, but the reality is that had Brown done what the press and the Tories and you lot berate him for not doing, he would have been universally slaughtered for it. And frankly that is a reality that you lot know fully well to be true.