Blacklists a good thing for the economy?

ukcarper

Perhaps some unions were too militant but where do you think the average worker would be if they never existed. Still working 7days a week for next to nothing.

geoffky

SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT IT IS OK FOR A CHILD TO BE BROUGHT UP IN POVERTY BECAUSE ITS DAD STOOD UP BECAUSE LACK OF HEALTH AND SAFETY AT WORK WAS KILLING HIS FELLOW WORKERS.......YOU ARE A NOB...

Every man who is not helping to bring about a better state of affairs for the future is helping to perpetuate the present misery, and is therefore the enemy of his own children. There is no such thing as being neutral: we must help or hinder. (Ragged Trousered Philanthropists)

geoffky

1echidna wrote: »

Unfortunately militants taking the p*** out of all of us is still a major problem in some industries. I am thinking here of refinery workers at Grangemouth being able to extract a large (I think 7%) payrise not long ago on top of already large wages. The system of writing references is just as unseen by the person whom the reference is about and just as subject to not being the truth. Having said that, it needs regularising to be in line with the data protection regulations.

YOU THINK GETTING A 7% PAYRISE IS BAD ...WHEN THE COMPANY MADE 10 BILLION..

dervish

geoffky wrote: »

SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT IT IS OK FOR A CHILD TO BE BROUGHT UP IN POVERTY BECAUSE ITS DAD STOOD UP BECAUSE LACK OF HEALTH AND SAFETY AT WORK WAS KILLING HIS FELLOW WORKERS.......YOU ARE A NOB...

Every man who is not helping to bring about a better state of affairs for the future is helping to perpetuate the present misery, and is therefore the enemy of his own children. There is no such thing as being neutral: we must help or hinder. (Ragged Trousered Philanthropists)

what a load of nonsense.

If every set of parents and every family looked after their own family and their own kind then the world would be a much better place.

The family and the home comes first - everything else is secndary.

1echidna

ukcarper wrote: »

Perhaps some unions were too militant but where do you think the average worker would be if they never existed. Still working 7days a week for next to nothing.

I agree entirely, but the balance has to be right. I have been rather contentious on this thread but the Grangemouth Refinery situation and naked abuse of power when many are suffering made me angry as does Sir Fred's pension.

1echidna

geoffky wrote: »

YOU THINK GETTING A 7% PAYRISE IS BAD ...WHEN THE COMPANY MADE 2 BILLION..

Are they willing to take a ten percent decrease now that with the collapse in oil prices the company made considerable stock losses? I think not.

chewmylegoff

blacklists probably seem reasonable to some.

i'm sure they would change their opinion when they were put on one for a false reason.

geoffky

dervish wrote: »

what a load of nonsense.

If every set of parents and every family looked after their own family and their own kind then the world would be a much better place.

The family and the home comes first - everything else is seocndary.

what a load of crap..look at how many people are killed in the building industry every year due to lack of health and safety which as we all know costs money but these companies know that by employing non unionized labour they can get away with it....so what you are saying is the men should just put up or shut up and worry about their own family and just hope its not him that is killed on the job..... I would not like to work next to you...

geoffky

1echidna wrote: »

Are they willing to take a ten percent decrease now that with the collapse in oil prices the company made considerable stock losses? I think not.

you do post some silly things/.

DOES IT LOOK LIKE THEY NEED TO CUT???

148% surge in third-quarter profits
Oil giant BP today beat analysts' forecasts as its reported a 148% surge in third-quarter profits to top $10bn (£6.5bn), boosted by record oil prices.
The forecast-busting performance is likely to spark fresh protests from motorists and businesses who have felt the pain at the petrol pump this year.

1echidna

geoffky wrote: »

you do post some silly things/.

DOES IT LOOK LIKE THEY NEED TO CUT???

148% surge in third-quarter profits
Oil giant BP today beat analysts' forecasts as its reported a 148% surge in third-quarter profits to top $10bn (£6.5bn), boosted by record oil prices.
The forecast-busting performance is likely to spark fresh protests from motorists and businesses who have felt the pain at the petrol pump this year.

Your behind the times mate, BP sold Grangemouth Refinery a few years ago.