Planning Permission

Wolverine77

I am wondering does anyone know or have advice on this issue.

I have full Planning Permission (expiring June 2009) and Building Control (expiring June 2011), the reason for the longer building control is that I had to re-submit the building control as it expired last year and I got it approved again for another 3 years from June 2008.

I have been trying to get an extension from Planning Dept but they have been no help at all. I have explained that I have Building Control approval lasting to June 2011 why can I not get the Planning Approval extended?? The Planning Dept advise me this is 2 different dept which I am fully aware of as I have built before!!

They have told me that it is a fresh submission to the planning dept and it will be considered under the new planning regulation, and there is no guarantee it will be approved again. Initially it is approved as a replacement dwelling and as it states on the plans no development should take place until the existing dwelling and all rubble is removed. I have done this but planners still say this is not the start of the project?

Any comments would be appreciated.

CL

As long as you put in your footings before the planning permission runs out, you don't have to do anything else. We were told the same thing.

mofopants

you could contact an architecht as some of them act as well as planning consultants as well and give very good advice on how to deal with the planning office.

We are trying to get planning permission ourselves and have found this the easiest route ourselves as the planning office don't go out of their way to help you out sometimes!

planning_officer

You can just apply to renew the permission - which involves submitting the same plans etc as last time. The Council cannot reasonably refuse it unless there has been a significant change in planning policy or site circumstances since the previous permission. As it's a replacement dwelling, I doubt the policies have changed much, if at all, since it was approved in 2006.

Or, as suggested above, do the foundations or a part of the development and it will then remain extant forever.

DesG

If the existing house has been demolished, I would be very careful as they could deny it as there is nothing to replace anymore!!

Get the foundations done. But also check your planning as there is sometimes a clause that the development has to be completed in a certain timeframe.

Cheers, Des.

planning_officer

DesG wrote: »

If the existing house has been demolished, I would be very careful as they could deny it as there is nothing to replace anymore!!

If there was clearly a dwelling there before, it's brownfield land, and the principle of a replacement dwelling is perfectly acceptable, especially as one has already been granted permission. Although having said, in the Green Belt, where a replacement dwelling can be acceptable provided it's not larger than the original one, the policy may only allow for a replacement dwelling for an existing habitable dwelling (it depends on your Council's policies) - however, the fact that permission has already been granted on this site, would make it very difficult for the Council to refuse an application. If you want to be on the safe side, you should just renew the permission as I said above - just get the application in before the current one expires!

DesG wrote: »

check your planning as there is sometimes a clause that the development has to be completed in a certain timeframe.

There shouldn't be! - the only time restriction should be that the development shall be started within 3 years. If a council is putting on conditions requiring development to be completed within a set time, they would not comply with the Central Government tests that conditions have to comply with (as set out in Circular 11/95).

Golden_Anemone

planning officer - Please don't take this the wrong way but can you please clarify whether the advice you are giving is based on GB or NI planning laws as I believe there are considerable differences in the legislation. Your profile doesn't say where you're based.

cooki2222

wolverine check ur pm

planning_officer

Golden_Anemone wrote: »

planning officer - Please don't take this the wrong way but can you please clarify whether the advice you are giving is based on GB or NI planning laws as I believe there are considerable differences in the legislation. Your profile doesn't say where you're based.

Yes of course - that's a good point. My advice/comments are based on planning legislation and Government advice for England and Wales. If anyone is based in NI, then please ignore my comments - as I too believe that planning is different over there (and I'm no expert on NI legislation!).

suki1964

planning_officer wrote: »

Yes of course - that's a good point. My advice/comments are based on planning legislation and Government advice for England and Wales. If anyone is based in NI, then please ignore my comments - as I too believe that planning is different over there (and I'm no expert on NI legislation!).

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