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i am in the same situation. i requested a copy of my reference and the previous employer had written that at the time i left a complaint against me was being investigated. they did not give details of the complaint but it was enough to make the next employer withdraw my job offer:rolleyes:0
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Employers these days rarely ask for work references since no one but HR can give them out on a companies behalf - and all they can say is "person X worked here from 'date' to 'date' ". If they say anything negative there is a chance they can be sued. Usually any new employer will happily accept a personal reference from your former manager/team leader.
I disagree with this.
I don't what sector you work in, but most companies I work for insist on one reference being from your previous employer.
Its only ok not to have a employer as a referee only if its your first job.
And the content of the reference is completely up to the person providing it. They can write what they like as long as its true.
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[qu Obviously they have to know your date of birth for the employee details forms but that comes after they offer you the job...[/quote]
Surely anyone worth their salt can determine age when they ask for schools attended/colleges and any relevent work expreience!!0 -
My employer if asked for a reference will state on it something like
Mr/Miss XXXXX resigned their position while there was a pending disciplinary action for XXXXX"Baby Ice arrived 17th April 2011. Tired.com! :j0 -
At work we employed someone and then within 3-ish months found one reference was untrue, and that he lied about his experience. He no longer works for us.
I'm not saying he could not do the job, but the whole process cast a dark shadow on his integrity.GOOGLE it before you ask, you'll often save yourself a lot of time.
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[qu Obviously they have to know your date of birth for the employee details forms but that comes after they offer you the job...
Surely anyone worth their salt can determine age when they ask for schools attended/colleges and any relevent work expreience!![/quote]
I went on a course a couple of years ago when I was made redundant and was told that when you get to a certain age you have to drop stuff off your c.v. as they are only really want the last 5-10 years on there. So if you leave off your DOB and only have the last 5-10 years experience on the c.v. then they shouldn't necessarily be able to tell your age. A potential employer would probably jump to the conclusion that you are younger than you are by using this method.;)
If you list education, is there really any need to show what years you attended schools/universities/colleges?
Saying that, I promptly left my age off my c.v. only to be asked by two recruitment agencies what my DOB is. I gave it but asked why they required it and one told me that it was just their policy to ask and one told me their clients like to know. Age discrimination is up and thriving!I'll never be a Money Saving Expert while my kids are Mony Spending Experts.0 -
hi, my son is going through exactly the same thing. I've spoken to his employer today (small bus only husband, wife & my son) & she more or less admitted that they just want him out so we've agreed he'll resign in return for a reference. Makes me so mad but I don't want put future employment in jepardy.
I spoke to acas yesterday and they said that the company was within its rights to disclose the disciplinary should they chose to.
Spose it all depends on your ex-employers policy - do you still have contact with anyone there that could advise you or could you even contact the person involved yourself. I know it takes guts to do it but then at least you'd have a better idea what to say in the interview?
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If you resign now then your reference will say 'resigned with pending disciplinary etc' or something similar.
If you lie about it at an interview and then get offered the job, the offer will be immediately withdrawn. I work in recruitment for a large financial institution and thats exactly what we do.
You need to speak to your ex employers and find out what they would put on your reference. If they are going to mention it, then it would obviously be stupid to lie about it.What the Deuce?0 -
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Caroline73 wrote: »If you have O levels/GCE's rather than GCSE's it will show you are approximately 40 or over.
Yes , there is that.
What does anyone think about leaving off O levels/GCEs if you have higher qualifications? They aren't really very meaningful years after you've left school are they?I'll never be a Money Saving Expert while my kids are Mony Spending Experts.0
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