Tempur Memory Foam Pillows -anyone used them?

dz1

A hard roller is more likely to cause splits in a mattress than a soft body rolling on a mattress. I'm sorry if you don't understand this. It is just simple common sense.

Tim_Deegan

dz1 wrote: »

A hard roller is more likely to cause splits in a mattress than a soft body rolling on a mattress. I'm sorry if you don't understand this. It is just simple common sense.

Didn't you read my post. It is designed to simulate accelerated wear. It isn't perfect, but when one mattress splits and others don't then it's a bad sign. That's simple common sense.

dz1

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

Didn't you read my post. It is designed to simulate accelerated wear. It isn't perfect, but when one mattress splits and others don't then it's a bad sign. That's simple common sense.

Yes, i did read your post. The test is supposed to simulate 10 years of normal use. My point is you can't do that if you use a hard roller. A hard roller is much more likely to cause a split than a soft human body, so it can't be a good simulation of 10 years of use by a person.

I know you are a mattress salesman so I understand why you don't want to admit the test is a bit unfair, especially when it is one of your competitors who suffers because of it, but even you admit the test is not perfect.

Tim_Deegan

dz1 wrote: »

Yes, i did read your post. The test is supposed to simulate 10 years of normal use. My point is you can't do that if you use a hard roller. A hard roller is much more likely to cause a split than a soft human body, so it can't be a good simulation of 10 years of use by a person.

In order to simulate 10 years use within a matter of hours all tests have to be hugely exaggerated in order to to get anywhere near accurate results. So for this reason the roller must be much harder, otherwise they would have to take 10 years carrying out the test.

The test is no more unfair to Tempur, than it is to any other manufacturer.

dz1 wrote: »

I know you are a mattress salesman so I understand why you don't want to admit the test is a bit unfair, especially when it is one of your competitors who suffers because of it, but even you admit the test is not perfect.

Yes I know you know that, as do most people on here. I can sell any brand, and any type of mattress I want to. I could sell tempur and make huge profits on them, but I choose not to because I don't think they are worth anywhere near the RRP.

All of your posts on MSE have been about mattresses, and causing trouble in the mattress forums, but you say that you have no connection in the trade:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Even some of my posts are in completely different threads, and are about completely different subjects, and I am in the trade.

dz1

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

In order to simulate 10 years use within a matter of hours all tests have to be hugely exaggerated in order to to get anywhere near accurate results. So for this reason the roller must be much harder, otherwise they would have to take 10 years carrying out the test.

The test is no more unfair to Tempur, than it is to any other manufacturer.

I disagree with your last line. The test is more unfair to Tempur because most of the other mattresses were of a two-layer design whereas the Tempur has three-layers including a softer, top layer that most of the other mattresses don't have. There's a much greater chance this thinner, top layer will be damaged by a hard roller. I doubt whether a soft human body rolling over it will do much to it though.

Seems to me that Tempur got penalised for going to the extra expense of including a more luxurious top layer in their mattresses. Whether this extra layer justifies the high cost of their mattresses is another matter.

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

Yes I know you know that, as do most people on here. I can sell any brand, and any type of mattress I want to. I could sell tempur and make huge profits on them, but I choose not to because I don't think they are worth anywhere near the RRP.

All of your posts on MSE have been about mattresses, and causing trouble in the mattress forums, but you say that you have no connection in the trade:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

You should have learned by now not to make false accusations against someone you know nothing about. I do not sell mattresses as you do and have no connection to the trade. I come here because I don't like to see people being misled by mattress salesmen.

Tim_Deegan

dz1 wrote: »

I disagree with your last line. The test is more unfair to Tempur because most of the other mattresses were of a two-layer design whereas the Tempur has three-layers including a softer, top layer that most of the other mattresses don't have. There's a much greater chance this thinner, top layer will be damaged by a hard roller. I doubt whether a soft human body rolling over it will do much to it though.

Seems to me that Tempur got penalised for going to the extra expense of including a more luxurious top layer in their mattresses. Whether this extra layer justifies the high cost of their mattresses is another matter.

You should have learned by now not to make false accusations against someone you know nothing about. I do not sell mattresses as you do and have no connection to the trade. I come here because I don't like to see people being misled by mattress salesmen.

Well if you aren't in the trade, then how can you claim to know so much about it???

A soft top layer would actually be the least likely layer to split, because it would be far more flexible.

If you actually did read all my posts then you would see that I advise on many products, most of which I don't sell. So stop causing trouble, or phone me.

dz1

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

Well if you aren't in the trade, then how can you claim to know so much about it???

A soft top layer would actually be the least likely layer to split, because it would be far more flexible.

If you actually did read all my posts then you would see that I advise on many products, most of which I don't sell. So stop causing trouble, or phone me.

Because I dared disagree with you I am a trouble maker? Sorry to break it to you, but you do not rule this forum. People are permitted to disagree with your views on mattresses, which are ever so slightly biased in favour of the products you sell.

I know something about mattresses because I didn't rely on information from salesmen on forums to make my decision on what to buy.

Instead, I did my own research into mattresses when I was looking to buy several of them for my home a while ago. I told you this before but it doesn't stop you from making stuff up about me.

Tim_Deegan

dz1 wrote: »

Because I dared disagree with you I am a trouble maker? Sorry to break it to you, but you do not rule this forum. People are permitted to disagree with your views on mattresses, which are ever so slightly biased in favour of the products you sell.

I know something about mattresses because I didn't rely on information from salesmen on forums to make my decision on what to buy.

Instead, I did my own research into mattresses when I was looking to buy several of them for my home a while ago. I told you this before but it doesn't stop you from making stuff up about me.

And it is obvious that most of your research has been done on sites that are owned by Tempur, because you are full of Tempur sales hype and excuses.

We are all entitled to our opinion, but all you do is come on here to slate me, even though I have helped 100's of people make a more educated choice. And before you say it, very few have bought from me.

boots_babe

Whilst I don't agree for a minute with Tim Deegan's endless self-promotion, I still disagree that Tempur is best. I've tried 2 Tempur pillows in the past - a shaped one and a 'traditional' pillow shaped one, and didn't get on at all with either.

I now have a different one (can't remember the name but found the link via MSE, bought a memory foam mattress and got 2 free matching pillows) and it is excellent.

So I really just think that different things suit different people. So long as you go for something that offers a free trial (most reasonable companies do) then you'll be able to try out and make sure it agrees with you. I can say that when you find the right one for you, you'll never go back!

MrsE_2

AHAR wrote: »

I stayed in a hotel where they had non-contoured Tempur pillows and found them very comfortable. I considered buying one but decided not to due to the price. I've tried a cheap memory foam pillow and found it didn't squeeze down thin enough for my liking.

Thats what I have. Its Tempur but called Tempur traditional (as its normal pillow shaped).

I love it & would replace it tomorrow with another if anything happened to it - not that anything is likely to happen to a pillow:D