Chiropracter

daska

spaceraiders wrote: »

Yes, chiropractors form their own organisations, offer training, certificates etc. just as people who do astrology, dowsing, Chinese herbal medicine etc. do. This does not mean they are qualified at giving the best medical help available.

Registration for chiropractors and osteopaths is a legal requirement - the same cannot be said of "astrology... etc."

Both are available on the NHS - though not in all areas, it depends on the Primary Care Trust.

Many GPs recommend osteopaths and chiropractors if you can fund them yourself or have insurance that will fund treatment.

I suspect 'spaceraiders' has a private agenda.

LGMD (limb-girdle muscular dystrophy) is complex.

spaceraiders

daska wrote: »

Registration for chiropractors and osteopaths is a legal requirement - the same cannot be said of "astrology... etc."

They do require some medical training so that they can recognise when someone has a serious problem (e.g. cancer) and can be forwarded to a professional medic etc. It doesn't make what they do any more legitimate.

Both are available on the NHS - though not in all areas, it depends on the Primary Care Trust.

Many GPs recommend osteopaths and chiropractors if you can fund them yourself or have insurance that will fund treatment.

So what? Do they have evidence it works? The NHS started offering homeopathy a while ago, much to the dismay of many doctors and scientists. This doesn't mean it works. Not everyone has critical thinking skills, including doctors.

I suspect 'spaceraiders' has a private agenda.

How petty of you to resort to personal attacks. My message is just "use medical treatments that have evidence of being effective". Do you agree with this? Who am I should be irrelevant compared to the evidence.

I notice you have ignored all my other comments such as chiropractors giving treatments for which they have no evidence of them working.

LGMD (limb-girdle muscular dystrophy) is complex.

Yes, which is why chiropractors are a very very bad thing to be recommending here.

star1_2

A couple of recent posts have put a smile on my face .... the age old "prove it" and “it’s witch-craft” comments .... just a few facts ....

The training that Chiropractors under-go (Osteopaths too etc), is extensive, their medical training and the understanding they have to undertake is far greater than it ever was previously (many people are not aware of this requirement). For a Chiropractor (and Osteopath) to use the title, they must undertake CPD every year, and are subject to checks, it's the only way they can remain a member of their governing body. Prosecution looms for anyone who breaks the law (it’s a legal statue now, not a governing body rule), insurance and referral where necessary is a must.... the tightening of the rules is becoming akin to the GP profession.

The argument of the value of treatments like Chiropractic and Osteopathy, will go on forever, some may also query the successes (or otherwise) of conventional medicine (there have been some disasters here that have killed/injured 00,000’s), and the billion £ industry that has a vested interest in reporting on its [conventional medicines] success and masking any failaures.

IMHO – (Don’t get me wrong about conventional medicine, I think it has great benefits and I believe the two (conventional and Chiropractic/osteopathy) can comfortably work alongside one another - I’m all for choice, and allowing people to select the best route/course of action that suits their condition.

star1_2

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1104991
For anyone who fancies a read ....

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code-a-holic

Interesting link there!!

I think my chiropractor is one of the most amazing people in the world!!

I'll try to be brief... 6 years ago i had a car accident, my GP said i had concusion and i was back in work the next day. Months later my complaints of shoulder pain were not taken seriously by the doctors i tried, so i saw a physiotherapist, and a year later a private shoulder specialist. I had a torn rotator cuff and muscle damage. NHS did not beleive it was a fixable problem or wanted to do their own investigation. I fell pregnant and within 13 weeks i was classed disabled and 4 years on now told i am disabled for life. All related to one group of muscle damage that was ignored and then spread through the body and caused numerous problems. Docotrs had in this time gave me some pain relief - treat a symptom. Once it was apparant that tramadol was no longer working, i took myself to a chiropractor. At the first appointment she made a detailed map of what she found was damaged/moved, and all made complete sense, she was able to tell me what problems i had without me giving any clues. When i first saw her my left leg extended 2 inches longer than my right and i couldnt walk without a heeled shoe. After 3 sessions we were down to a inch longer and less pain than im used to. Its now 3 months since i first saw her and she has advised to try 3 weekly rather than the weekly i was asking for.

My local health board dont offer chiropractors - but are hoping to soon i have been told.

spaceraiders

It's very simple. If it works, it will have evidence to back it up. It's very hard at first, but personal "I experienced it so it's true" style evidence is very very very unreliable and should be ignored. That's why we spend lots of money and time on proper trials with lots of people.

For people that really think this nonsense works, why do you think the NHS ignores it? There really is no reason why doctors would not adopt something that is cheap and effective. They ignore it because it fails to work in tests.

soolin

As we are straying into the 'medical advice' scenario here I will close this thread and refer it across.