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Electron card trouble

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Humpf

I shop in Sainsburys usually
3 or 4 times lately when I have put my card in the machine (at self scan check outs) it says your card has been declind
The second I put it in ?

THe last time this happened an odious little old hag on that area shouted your cards been declined
I politely said I think its your machine as I was only paid yesterday
She insisted on shouting across for all to hear a further 3 times your bank has declined it
A complaint was made

Is there any reason why this would happen ?
I rang my bank Halifax and they said it must be a sainsburys prob as the sum was never applied for at there end,i had plenty of cleared funds and they could not explain
This has happened 3 times now

Anyone else had this ?
Is an electron card given low priority to connect to authorisation centre at busy times ?
I would love to know why it happens
I find myself paying cash now just in case

:confused:

I did say to the lady she obviously wasn't employed for her customer skills or tact !!!!!!!!!!
"Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes." :cool:


All truth goes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Then, it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident.
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  • Are you sure they have not stopped taking Electron? Just a thought, this would probably result in the same problem.
    What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare
  • I had that problem a couple of times at Sainsburys, though I never really thought much of it at the time.
    What usually happened was the cashier swiped it manually and then it went through fine (had to sign instead of use pin).
    I know have a regular visa card and it doesn't happen at all so I do think it is an electron problem.
  • cazziebo
    cazziebo Posts: 3,209 Forumite
    Happens to me reasonably often with Electron - thankfully I also have a Nationwide Visa Debit card. I think it has happened in Morrison's and Sainsbury's but most often at petrol garages. It doesn't bother me (used to it from my spendthrift days!) but can embarrass the assistant.

    Electron has an extra level of authorisation and I think if this fails then the card reader defaults to declined.

    Good on you complaining about the assistant - not everyone has my thick skin and I'm sure most people would be mortified.
  • It happened to me alot when i had electron. Another store was Boots - my card was always being declined there! I was with the Woolwich and when Barclays took over they changed it to Connect. The same thing keeps happening though, especially in Sainsbury's cafe, for some reason. I've no idea why or what you can do about it though. If you find a way round it, let me know!!
  • I've found that American Express cards have a similar problem in Asda sometimes. The card is immediately declined without seeking any authorization or pin number. Defo a problem with the readers and/or merchant systems. In fact i'm sure i've had the same problem with Mastercard once or twice in Asda to. Has only ever happened in Asda.
  • Thanks for the info
    Im glad im not alone
    Its really annoying though my husband stands about 15ft away from me now when I pay just in case he was mortified last time
    "Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes." :cool:


    All truth goes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Then, it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident.
  • stokefan
    stokefan Posts: 790 Forumite
    i dont uses self scan with my card for this reason, it always works (touch wood) at the checkouts
  • chalkysoil
    chalkysoil Posts: 1,662 Forumite
    Humpf


    THe last time this happened an odious little old hag on that area shouted your cards been declined
    I politely said I think its your machine as I was only paid yesterday
    She insisted on shouting across for all to hear a further 3 times your bank has declined it
    A complaint was made


    I did say to the lady she obviously wasn't employed for her customer skills or tact !!!!!!!!!!

    Good for you! Maybe we should start posting the name and store of these hags. And a photo...
  • yep happened to me at Asda both the store and the self-service filling for petrol....
  • hippey
    hippey Posts: 849 Forumite
    SACAT terminals can do this with forced online cards such as electron, they will read the track data from the card as it is inserted into the reader and if electron is not accepted at that particular POS then it will automatically decline.

    Will do a bit of research on this and post in a day or two, but I seem to remember something about the retailers agreement does not cover 'electronic only use' cards in SACAT terminals but I can't remeber what the reason for this were
    These are my thoughts and no one else's, so like any public forum advice - check it out before entering into contracts or spending your hard earned cash!

    I don't know everything, however I do try to point people in the right direction but at the end of the day you can only ever help yourself!
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