GAS up 25% in weeks (BG)

razzer_2

I watched working lunch today - they gave three examples of suppliers (that i forgot to note.derrr) who were offering frozen or capped price deals.

does anyone have info on these companies / deals..... ?

superscotsman

Cardew wrote:

What a strange post! Although not unusual for a physicist in my experience to base an argument on a false premise.

Your argument is irrelevant for most people as the majority of gas heating is by radiators.

Even those with gas fires in a living room are unlikely to have chimneys in the other rooms in their house.

Gas prices are in the region of 2p kWh, electricity around 7p kWh. Most gas boilers are in the region of 90% efficient, where electricity is close to 100%.

Perhaps you would care to get your calculator out and produce a rational argument without the assumption that all gas heating is by gas fires c/w chimneys in every room in the house.

No, Cardew. My argument is not irrelevant. I don't know if you have ever noticed, but a gas boiler IS a gas fire. The only difference is that it heats a boiler of water instead of having a reflector to heat the room. Heating the room with a hot water radiator is an even less efficient way of heating your room than a direct gas fire; and, human beings being what they are, I'll bet there are radiators on in unoccupied rooms, aren't there? And when you go out on the town at night, and you turn the heating off, the radiators are still throwing out heat into the empty rooms as the water cools down. And if the pipes should happen to burst...
There are lots of smoking jackets up for grabs on ebay...

magentadreamer

razzer wrote:

I watched working lunch today - they gave three examples of suppliers (that i forgot to note.derrr) who were offering frozen or capped price deals.

does anyone have info on these companies / deals..... ?

If you do a comparasion search you should be able to just search for capped products only. I do know that Scottish Power have capped tarriffs.

Cardew

superscotsman wrote:

No, Cardew. My argument is not irrelevant. I don't know if you have ever noticed, but a gas boiler IS a gas fire. The only difference is that it heats a boiler of water instead of having a reflector to heat the room. Heating the room with a hot water radiator is an even less efficient way of heating your room than a direct gas fire; and, human beings being what they are, I'll bet there are radiators on in unoccupied rooms, aren't there? And when you go out on the town at night, and you turn the heating off, the radiators are still throwing out heat into the empty rooms as the water cools down. And if the pipes should happen to burst...
There are lots of smoking jackets up for grabs on ebay...

For whom it may concern.

The above quote is not worth answering and I was remiss in not reading some of his other posts before ‘daring’ to disagree with his views – you may care to read some.

However should anyone take the quote seriously I suggest that they take professional advice before they install gas fires for heating in lieu of radiators or search this forum for the cost effectiveness of gas fires.

A_LANCASHIRE_LAD_2

:mad: So whens the revolution in this poxy country of ours gonna start ? Or are we typical of this country and just gonna take it lying down and do nothing as usual ??

Im ready to lead the army over the wall are u ????????????
Basically I HAVE HAD ENOUGH ................................

:mad:

beeniemac

superscotsman wrote:

No, Cardew. My argument is not irrelevant. I don't know if you have ever noticed, but a gas boiler IS a gas fire. The only difference is that it heats a boiler of water instead of having a reflector to heat the room. Heating the room with a hot water radiator is an even less efficient way of heating your room than a direct gas fire; and, human beings being what they are, I'll bet there are radiators on in unoccupied rooms, aren't there? And when you go out on the town at night, and you turn the heating off, the radiators are still throwing out heat into the empty rooms as the water cools down. And if the pipes should happen to burst...
There are lots of smoking jackets up for grabs on ebay...

Ok, you put a gas fire in every room and see if your bills go up, smartass.

superscotsman

We're not on gas, and we have no intention of going on gas. My original postings were comments not on what costs are now; but what they are going to be in about a year's time. And by then, the gas bills are not going to make pretty reading. I'll leave you to the tender mercies of President Putin. He's really a nice man, you know.

razzer_2

Am i imagining it?..riddle me this........the other day British Gas announced its fear that bills may go up shortly by as much as 25%....for the consumer....and as martin says this may just be a ploy....and we might expect only a 15% rise.
did anyone else happen to catch a small news item today concerning scottish power....??
they released a statement giving details of yearly profits......it was something outrageous....like 42 million or something...
now ......how come a company like scottish power posts such large profits ....two days after such an annoucement from BG?... :mad: ..I can stomach a price rise of 15% if it is justified......but for one energy provider to blatantly show just how un-justified that rise might well be.......makes me sick. :mad:

If the energy providers are making that much profit...(and clearly they are)...how is it that me and you are getting fleeced again?... .

razzer_2

I'm sorry i got it all wrong...... in fact the press release states as follows :

In its third quarter results, Scottish Power said profits from its energy retail and wholesale arm increased by £11 million to £52 million in the three months to the end of December.

i rest my case......i would love to know why we are facing such a price hike shortly when they report such profits?.....

razzer_2

I'm sorry i got it all wrong folks...according to the press release.....

In its third quarter results, Scottish Power said profits from its energy retail and wholesale arm increased by £11 million to £52 million in the three months to the end of December.

:eek: :mad: WHAT?.....

WHY ON EARTH ARE WE FACING A PRICE HIKE ???