Non-certified installers for fusebox and boiler?

silvercar

Lets get real here. To say that a house can never be sold if the correct certificates cannot be produced is ridiculous.

If someone was asked for certificates and didn't have them what would happen?

a) the seller would probably have to pay for an indemnity policy to cover the buyers for change in value due to lack of certificates. Costs about £200-300.

b) the buyer may demand (or decide to commission) a report on the condition of the electrics or gas.

Whether (b) applies could well depend on whether the systems have recently been replaced or whether the work was done a few years ago and the sellers have clearly been living comfortably in the house since.

Meepster

silvercar wrote: »

a) the seller would probably have to pay for an indemnity policy to cover the buyers for change in value due to lack of certificates. Costs about £200-300.

b) the buyer may demand (or decide to commission) a report on the condition of the electrics or gas.

The certificates have to be presented to solicitors when exchanging contracts. If there are no certificates and the surveyor BELIEVES work was completed after the cut off dates, they will demand an inspection by a suitably qualified person. Without this the sale cannot be completed.So b would be the correct response :eek:

silvercar

We bought a house that had a recent boiler fitted. The people selling had lived in the house as people do, they used their heating and they looked as though they showered/ bathed. When it came to it, they had sign off for the whole extension but no separate sign off for the fitting of the new boiler. They supplied a corgi annual inspection certificate (the one used for let properties), but no installation certificate. We still bought the house.

Meepster

Corgi annual inspection certificate is fine as that is confirming all work done has been done to the relevant standard. Otherwise, when the inspection was done, the work would be condemned.

Not everyone gets an annual inspection though and thats when trouble can arise.

robv_3

You don't need to be part p certified to carry out electrical work. If the work is carried out by a none certified engineer either a certified engineer can sign if off or you need to notify building control.

Remember not all changes require certification or notification but if you need to ask, there is a very good chance they do

vaio

robv wrote: »

You don't need to be part p certified to carry out electrical work. If the work is carried out by a none certified engineer either a certified engineer can sign if off or you need to notify building control.

Remember not all changes require certification or notification but if you need to ask, there is a very good chance they do

NICEIC guidance to us is not to certify the work of non registered contractors on the grounds that unless we do the install we can't be sure the selection & erection parts have been complied with.

lisal0u

My Dad is an electrician but not Part P registered as he doesn't do domestic installations. He is doing my re-wire for me using the 17th edition guidelines and I have paid the council's building control to come and do the checks and certification. They come and see the first fix and then test it all at the end and give you the Part P certificate. This cost £175.

Isn't it illegal for someone that isn't Corgi registered to even open up a boiler?

Lisa

andyhop

lisal0u wrote: »

My Dad is an electrician but not Part P registered as he doesn't do domestic installations. He is doing my re-wire for me using the 17th edition guidelines and I have paid the council's building control to come and do the checks and certification. They come and see the first fix and then test it all at the end and give you the Part P certificate. This cost £175.

Isn't it illegal for someone that isn't Corgi registered to even open up a boiler?

Lisa

Im presuming that you saw the rogue traders show

Not all boilers when you take the front cover off expose the combustion chamber,as a plumber i am not corgi registered but do basic repairs on simple boiler faults for regular customers, things like changing a pump,new automatic air vents,timers controllers etc

I also have a friend who is a 17th edition spark,went to wire a boiler and the customer asked him for a corgi card when he took the cover off!The boiler had no flying lead and the installer who was corgi did not have the skills to do it

Corgi/rogue traders gave incorrect and non-factual information

lisal0u

Thanks Andy!

I want to install a electronic programmer onto my boiler and was wondering if I needed a corgi person to do it. Hopefully my Dad will be able to as you don't need to get to the inner workings to do it!

Rogue Traders are naughty for doing that! I can kind of see why they made a big deal about it though! I wouldn't want just anyone messing about with my boiler! Im paranoid enough as it is about carbon monoxide ha ha!

roddydogs

I had a boiler fitted 3 years ago.......should i have some sort of certificate then?
Installer never mentioned it.