Lactose Intolerance and Yoghurt

frugalmumof4

have you tried making soya yogurt instead in a thermos flask. 1 litre of soya milk, bring to the boil, switch off, allow to cool until body temperature. Mix with 2 tablespoons of natural yogurt, you can use soya, or lactose free. Pour into a flask and leave over night. It wont go really really thick, but is certainly as good as the shop bought soya yogurts, we mix with homemade jam or honey.

star2007

Eating dairy products is actually the worst thing you can do for healthy bones. It does seem counter-intuitive in that dairy products do have calcium in them. However, all animal protein is high in sulphur containing amino acids (the components of protein). These under go a chemical reaction in the body into an acidic compound (sulphur > sulphate).... basically the blood becomes acidic, and the body tries to neutralise this. In this process, bone gets leached into the blood, weakening it and potentially risking osteoporosis in later life.

Countries like China and Nigeria eat very few dairy products, but have rates of osteoporosis dozens of times lower than the UK.

I'm not saying animal products are toxic per se, but the ratio in which they're eaten to plant foods in the standard diet is.

Interesting link: http://www.pcrm.org/health/prevmed/strong_bones.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_China_Study#Osteoporosis

The 4 x pack tubs of Alpro soya yoghurt are great.... they're often on special offer in the supermarkets. I regularly (about every couple of months) see them on promotion for £1 in Waitrose and Sainsbury's. Likewise with the fresh soya milk for £1. As they have a fairly long fridge life, I seldom have to buy them at full price!

Other calcium rich foods include green leafy veg like kale, swiss chard and spinach, broccoli, almonds, sesame seeds (found in houmous), oranges and swede.

How about making a macaroni & broccoli bake made with a soya milk based white sauce & add a couple of handfuls of ground almonds.

misskool

it depends how lactose intolerant he is. I can't drink normal milk but can have yogurt in small quantities.

if concerned about calcium, you can introduce other foods that are high in calcium (tofu, almonds, spinach)

penguine

star2007 wrote: »

Other calcium rich foods include green leafy veg like kale, swiss chard and spinach, broccoli, almonds, sesame seeds (found in houmous), oranges and swede.

How about making a macaroni & broccoli bake made with a soya milk based white sauce & add a couple of handfuls of ground almonds.

Ditto the info about milk not being great for the bones as I am vegan and have read a lot on the subject -- the China Study book is excellent.

Other great sources of calcium are pinto beans and chickpeas. You can cook your own pinto beans from dried or buy tinned refried beans -- Discovery is the only brand I've seen here -- and use them in a Mexican style wrap. Hummous as mentioned above is a great source because it has both the chickpeas and the sesame seeds. Also tahini, made from sesame seeds -- my daughter has it on chappati with honey for her lunch at school most days. It is also nice in a sandwich with a bit of jam.

ascot64

Interesting about dairy not being that great for calcium intake - all the nutritionists bang on about it being the best thing ever for calcium!

He eats loads of broccoli, almonds, oranges and swede. He also likes hummus so I might start making that more regularly. He eats a really good diet but at 13 his RDA of calcium is 1000mg. Unfortunately he hates the taste of anything soya and I can't blame him really.

I am probably worrying unecessarily about the amount of calcium he is getting.

thriftmonster

Hi ascot - yes ds1 (aged 13) and I are both LI so we have tried most things. Neither of us like soya except for the Alpro soya cream which is good. I use lactofree milk and yoghurt as we can't eat cow, goat or sheep yoghurt - nor any cow cheese - but we both can cope with small amounts of goats cheese and sheep cheese - so I use chevre, pecorino, manchego, feta, roquefort, halloumi etc (just check the labels).

ascot64

So tolerance to yoghurt seems to vary from person to person.

I am going to try him with it in a weeks time once I have managed to get him symptom free from last weekends mishaps.

It's a real problem isn't it establishing how much lactose can be tolerated when symptoms appear 3 days later! A glass of milk would make him immediately ill but with foods that contain naturally lower levels of lactose the sysmptoms take longer to appear.

Don't know how we would manage without LactoFree really.

penguine

ascot64 wrote: »

Interesting about dairy not being that great for calcium intake - all the nutritionists bang on about it being the best thing ever for calcium!

Yes, we've all been brainwashed into believing that, I think! Even once I'd read up on the subject, it took me a long time to shake that idea.

This is a good resource if you're interested in reading more:

http://www.pcrm.org/health/prevmed/strong_bones.html

To protect your bones you do need calcium in your diet, but you also need to keep calcium in your bones.

Ishtar

There was someone on the radio the other day talking about lactose intolerance and how it could be overcome. Interesting, I thought, until she started banging on about goat's, sheep's and soya milk all being inappropriate substitutes for cow's milk due to the types of protein they contain . Then she mentioned that people with lactose intolerance could drink up to 240ml milk per day and could eat other dairy products without much of an effect. Now, I know everyone is different, but if OH drank that much milk, even over the course of a day, he would be very unwell for the next 36 hours.

Turns out she was from the Dairy Council....

Thanks for the information about calcium - I don't drink much milk or eat much dairy produce, so I did worry about it for a while. I do eat plenty of leafy green vegetables and I eat tofu regularly, so it's nice to know that I'm getting calcium in my diet.

ascot64

Ishtar wrote: »

There was someone on the radio the other day talking about lactose intolerance and how it could be overcome. Interesting, I thought, until she started banging on about goat's, sheep's and soya milk all being inappropriate substitutes for cow's milk due to the types of protein they contain . Then she mentioned that people with lactose intolerance could drink up to 240ml milk per day and could eat other dairy products without much of an effect. Now, I know everyone is different, but if OH drank that much milk, even over the course of a day, he would be very unwell for the next 36 hours.

So would my DS. It is true that he can tolerate some lactose but never that much.