Recession 100% official now

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Have no fear about recession, invest in property because as Krusty Allsopp says:
"properdee prices only ever go UP, UP, UP."

mewbie_2

Lucylocket01 wrote: »

Happy stuff...

We really need more people like you in this world. Here's a short list of things you could do to help.

1. Visit some pensioners and explain to them how much worse it was in the 70's.
2. Help with children living in poverty and explain how much better their future is.
3. Take a stroll around Swindon and have an upbeat chat to the workers recently laid off.

I am sure the 'real' message from you will cheer them all up no end.

Rochdale_Pioneers

mewbie wrote: »

We really need more people like you in this world. Here's a short list of things you could do to help.

1. Visit some pensioners and explain to them how much worse it was in the 70's.
2. Help with children living in poverty and explain how much better their future is.
3. Take a stroll around Swindon and have an upbeat chat to the workers recently laid off.

I am sure the 'real' message from you will cheer them all up no end.

Wouldn't it? How many kids living in poverty have an X-Box and Sky TV? Poverty is a measure relative to average earnings. As that average is much higher than it was people living in poverty are substantially better off than their counterparts.

b0rker

Lucylocket01 wrote: »

And many people have lots of things that they own outright without credit. I know loads of people. Myself being one.

Agreed. My girlfriend and I have cars, LCD TVs, nice bikes, consoles, PCs, laptops etc and no debt other than in our house/mortgage.

I don't know anyone who is in debt up to their eyeballs. I know plenty of people who either have loads of savings or have some savings and loads of "toys".

We are all in the 30s age group. My partner and I are 30 and 32.

None of us are amazingly well paid considering the average wage in our city is about £15,000 (Inverness).

mewbie_2

b0rker wrote: »

Agreed. My girlfriend and I have cars, LCD TVs, nice bikes, consoles, PCs, laptops etc and no debt other than in our house/mortgage.

What is this - the big yourself up thread? Who's next to tell us just how much stuff they have. Roll up, roll up.

b0rker

Graham_Devon wrote: »

It's easy to say were better off. But could you honestly say that we would be better off if the circumstances were the same? Could we really say we were better off if now, one person was the wage earner and one was the home maker? Remember, there wasn't the welfare state giving out all the welfare back then either, and you can get help even with two people going to work.

So what you're saying is that we are better off because there are more jobs around so 2 people can work and create a larger joint income. This is indeed the situation. My girlfriend in fact gets paid a little more than I do.

So we are indeed better off than in the 70s...

b0rker

mewbie wrote: »

What is this - the big yourself up thread? Who's next to tell us just how much stuff they have. Roll up, roll up.

Wow. You really love to take a thread off topic and start a !!!!! fight don't you mewbie? You are a very special member of this forum. You add a lot of worth to it...

My listing of my belongings underlined the fact that many people do have material items and no debt other than their homes. Unlike what the bears on this forum would like to try and suggest we are not all up to our necks in debt and the whole lot is not going to come tumbling down tomorrow.

At least I have been reminded why I was staying off this forum.

Was it not known as the loony forum for a while? Fitting in your case.

mewbie_2

b0rker wrote: »

Wow. You really love to take a thread off topic and start a !!!!! fight don't you mewbie?

How can you accuse me of taking a thread off topic (not that I give a !!!!!!), when you choose to post a list of what you possess?

Oh yes, there's no recession because I own a packet of condoms, a biro, pair of underpants and a copy of the Sun. Yeah - a clever financial argument well made.

Lucylocket01

mewbie wrote: »

We really need more people like you in this world. Here's a short list of things you could do to help.

1. Visit some pensioners and explain to them how much worse it was in the 70's.
2. Help with children living in poverty and explain how much better their future is.
3. Take a stroll around Swindon and have an upbeat chat to the workers recently laid off.

I am sure the 'real' message from you will cheer them all up no end.

I dont this pensioners have it great but I also do think they are better off than the 70's
I dont know any children living in poverty. Only poverty I see is on tv - Africa etc. My bil is a benefit family ps3's xboxes, sky, laptops How is that poverty?
I'm well aware how sh iity it is being made redundant, my dh has been made redundant 3 times in our married life. Never though in 20odd years have I ever had it as tough as the posts I looked at from the 70's recession. Even on dole.

mewbie_2

Lucylocket01 wrote: »

Never though in 20odd years have I ever had it as tough as the posts I looked at from the 70's recession. Even on dole.

Well those posts obviously prove it. Must admit I was tempted to make one up for fun, but couldn't be bothered in the end. My point is that I don't really care about the 70's. We can't go back in time and help. However there are real people suffering real hardship, and it will get worse as this recession bites. Denying it does not really help anyone - unless the point is to make this a happy thread rather than yet another doom and gloom.

But then why not go to the MoneySavers and post a happy huggy thread, and leave the Recession forum to talk about recession and it's impact, etc?

Every now and then I get a teensy bit fed up with people telling me it's all ok, that kids in poverty actually have everything they need, that they have a load of stuff - you know - that sort of thing.

Is that clear enough without being too offensive? Hard to get the balance right sometimes.