Paying the going rate !

robowen

Public notice !
When you have any work done by a family member or friend and you insist on paying the going rate before commencement....

......please don't be dissappointed when presented with the bill, you find you are paying the going rate. :eek:

after all, you did insist on paying the going rate. :rolleyes:

rob

Poppy9

I don't mind paying family or friends the going rate so long as they do a proper job. If I have to pay tax I expect them to do so as well on what I pay them so demand a receipt. If you are doing work for family and friends as cash in hand with no receipt then you should give a discount equivalent to what you would be paying the tax man!!

Also trades people should remember just because it's family or friends doesn't mean you can do 1/2 a job and then disappear. It also doesn't mean you should connect a gas fire so that its spewing fumes into the living room to save time (an ex-friend did this for us).

moneysavingplumber

Rob are you talking from recent bitter experience by any chance :rolleyes: ?

Been there several times myself!

hilary1

always always always agree a price. i work for a builder and asked the contactor we use to do some work and i'd pay cash. when he did the work which was fine his bill was such a suprise i stood staring at him for several minutes.

no such thing as favours any more, or cheap labour (unless they want you to do something for them ofcourse)

robby-01

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Why would anyone want to do that?
If a tradesman decides to evade tax by not declaring income,then he is breaking the law and risks a fine if found out.
If he did it your way he would recieve exactly the same income for the job whether he declared it or not.What would be the point.

Poppy9

robby-01 wrote:

Why would anyone want to do that?
If a tradesman decides to evade tax by not declaring income,then he is breaking the law and risks a fine if found out.
If he did it your way he would recieve exactly the same income for the job whether he declared it or not.What would be the point.

I was being sarcastic.

safesound

robowen wrote:

Public notice !
When you have any work done by a family member or friend and you insist on paying the going rate before commencement....

......please don't be dissappointed when presented with the bill, you find you are paying the going rate. :eek:

after all, you did insist on paying the going rate. :rolleyes:

I agree with you Rob, I dont mind paying the going rate to family/friends but I also expect that if I'm paying the going rate I get the same customer service as a 'normal' customer, ie. the start date doesnt get put off four times and the work is actually finished in the time frame agreed and not left to sit idle while a better paying job is started. GRRRR!

Not that I'm saying you'd do that or anything

sharon
whose brother in law just has

Rhino666

'Why would anyone want to do that?
If a tradesman decides to evade tax by not declaring income,then he is breaking the law and risks a fine if found out.
If he did it your way he would recieve exactly the same income for the job whether he declared it or not.What would be the point.'


I'm not sure I agree with above...... The going rate for a reputable tradesman would include an percentage that is income/corporation tax and may also include VAT on labour and materials, if they are VAT registered. If a person charges the going rate but doesn't pay the taxes due they are obviously pocketing the difference which could be a significant benefit ?
Many people do cash in hand jobs that are indeed illegal as tax is being evaded but they usually reflect that by a lower bill at the end. This is exactly the sort of thing that friends do for friends to get paid the same but charge a mate less where trust is involved but morals aren't.
Anyone that charges the going rate and then doesn't pay the taxes due is the worst kind of greedy, selfish CHAV and we don't know of any people like this in the UK, do we ? :-)

robowen

Thanks for all your replies.
I have to add that this job was done with 1 weeks notice, was started and finished within the same week.
Its been done through the books as well.
I noted all the hours on the job throughout the week and after the bill was given it worked out at £11.50p/h.

...It must also be noted that the person I was doing the job for (unknown to me), is a financial advisor charging £80-£100 per hour :doh:

They do say that people with money are the worst at parting with it !!

rob