PCN Ealing Borough

norangeduck

Can anyone offer some advice on a PCN i recieved??
Got PCN as i parked in a residential area, which has restrictions for an hour a day. I was visiting a friend, I did not park outside her dropped curb, as i thought access was needed, (it had a white line along too) so I parked along the curb a bit more.

there were no signs visable from where i parked about the restriction, and only was it further down the road did it then say on the signs that you can pay and display.

The pcn says that i was parked opposite number 17, though this is wrong, I was opposite 19.

Now im not sure how to contest, as would I have still got a ticket if i was parked by her dropped curb, with the white line? (and the parking ticket says I was parked here, which I wasnt) So i could say that it was wrong. Or shul I say that I moved my car to that spot when I realised I had a ticket, (which I did) as I didnt know about the restrictions (or would I have still been ticketed in this area).

The next day I then put a ticket in my car to cover the hour - do I say that I done this, or keep quiet, as my friend has written me a letter saying I was a guest at her propety, and that I shouldnt need to pay.

Sorry,is that a bit confusing? - I just want to clarify what is best to put in my letter, and the angle to put on it, either, sorry I didnt know there were restrictions, or the pcn is incorrect as I was parked opposite another house, or to say the signage wasnt clear.

Thanks in advance!!!

Neil_B

norangeduck wrote: »

Sorry,is that a bit confusing? -

yes! LOL

What was the restriction, what contravention is alleged and what markings were on the road where you received the PCN? Pics would greatly help!

norangeduck

lol, let me try and explain! although I dont have any pics i can upload yet, they on someone elses camera.

The contravention was 12 - parked in a residence place without displaying ticket/permit.

I was parked in a marked bay, (and you can park there without a ticket/permit at any other times, apart from this one hour)

Im just wondering wheater to plea that they details on the pcn are wrong, therefore why should i pay, or that i didnt realise, i was a guest, didnt see any signs from where i had parked.

thanks again!

Neil_B

norangeduck wrote: »

Im just wondering wheater to plea that they details on the pcn are wrong, therefore why should i pay,

Err why? You can't just say it's wrong, it would be pointless.

Description of contravention is correct.

Only possible avenues are:-

flawed road markings (common in Ealing) need those pics.

signage issues as you suspect but they may not need for that particular bay if in a CPZ (most are).

mitigation - sorry guv - honest mistake please let me off (unlikely).

norangeduck

well the pcn stated that i was parked opposite number 17, when I was not, I was opposite 19 (minor detail I know, but im clutching here!)

Neil_B

Yes normally minor flaws in location are not normally relevant but do throw the CEO's obs skills into doubt whatever they are. (Wrong street is usually a winner).
The relevance of what you say is that a different retriction exists where he says you were - dropped kerb if I understood you correctly.
problem is he got the contravention description correct for where you really were and probably has pics.

You have far more chance with the compliance of signage and road markings and legality of the restriction itself.

As well as putting pics up when you can I suggest you identify the CPZ as it almost certainly is one, and check the applicable restrictions for the zone.

Cumbrian_Male

Have I got the gist here?

The marked bays are unrestricted for residents displaying their permits, but any other vehicle may park for up to one hour and provided they have paid and displayed their ticket?

Neil_B

Cumbrian_Male wrote: »

Have I got the gist here?

The marked bays are unrestricted for residents displaying their permits, but any other vehicle may park for up to one hour and provided they have paid and displayed their ticket?

No. It sounds more like as he said. Just one hour restricted in the middle of the day.
It is a very sensible set up actually. Intended to prevent a residential street being used by commuters or people working nearby.

It lessens the impact on residents who can then still have visitors most of the time and access to local retail businesses is also more easily available.
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TheBogsDollocks

I believe you can park in front of a dropped kerb so long as it is not access to a shared drive and the owner has given their consent, see section 86(3) of the Traffic Management Act 2004.

Not much help now but bear it in mind next time.

I strongly advise uploading photos of the PCN, road markings and signage. If it is a CPZ then upload the CPZ sign too. This may be winnable.

peter_the_piper

Neil_B wrote: »

No. It sounds more like as he said. Just one hour restricted in the middle of the day.
It is a very sensible set up actually. Intended to prevent a residential street being used by commuters or people working nearby.

It lessens the impact on residents who can then still have visitors most of the time and access to local retail businesses is also more easily available.
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Strewth, a council using common sense? I think I'll go lie down.:rolleyes: