Should I be paid more?

Funky_Gibbon

I work for the NHS in a technical role. When I started there were several people who did the same job as me. Over time a couple left and they weren't replace so their workload was passed to me and my colleague. Now that person has left for maternity leave and I have had to take on their workload as well.

I'm now doing much much more work for exactly the same pay. I've asked for a pay increase but have been told that because the work is more of what I already did rather than additional responsibilities I might not be able to get it.

Does anyone know whether this is true or am I being fed a load of rubbish?

SomeBozo

Are you on an Agenda for Change payscale?

If you are, it is true and not rubbish.

Bozo

Primrose

Whilst you may justifiably feel aggrieved that you've been asked to take on more work, I really don't think this is the time for you to be putting your head up above the parapet and wanting more money when every day hundreds of people in the private sector are being made redundant without any hope of another job in sight. So far employees in the public sector seem to have been protected against job losses so it may be more sensible to settle for still having a job, rather than asking for a pay increase.

Funky_Gibbon

SomeBozo wrote: »

Are you on an Agenda for Change payscale?

If you are, it is true and not rubbish.

Bozo

Yes I am unfortunately. I thought A4C might come into it.

Whilst you may justifiably feel aggrieved that you've been asked to take on more work, I really don't think this is the time for you to be putting your head up above the parapet and wanting more money when every day hundreds of people in the private sector are being made redundant without any hope of another job in sight. So far employees in the public sector seem to have been protected against job losses so it may be more sensible to settle for still having a job, rather than asking for a pay increase.

I know what you mean but at the same time I feel like I'm being used as slave labour. I know for a fact that my bosses are still receiving the budget to employ the staff in the vacant posts but they're not using it for that purpose. Meanwhile I'm having to put in several hours a week unpaid to barely stay on top of the workload.

In the current economic climate you're right I'm in the fortunate position of having a relatively safe job. I guess I'm just frustrated at the moment that I'm being asked to do more work, take on more stress, but not being given anything in compensation other than flexi-time that I can't possibly take. Other people have it worse.

TBH I'd love for my managers to employ more people rather than give me money. The problem is that neither is happening.

Blankie

Hi there
As you're on A4c you would have to show in your job description that you have taken on extra responsibilities in order for it to be reviewed but it sounds like its the volume thats increased rather than anything else.

Still worth chat to your manager though if you are being overworked. Have you got a PDR coming up?
Blankie

piggeh

I wouldn't ask for a pay rise in your position, but ask for help with the workload instead. If there are no additional responsiblities, then there's really no grounds for a change in pay grade. Although I would check what the scope of your job is down as formally as it's likely duties have been passed around and you may be doing extra responsiblities anyway.

Also try and show a positive attitude, but at the same time communicate that you have flexi time built up and I think normally there is a time limit by when you have to use it?

lal1234

If you are regularly having to work more than your contracted hours you should raise this with HR. You are under no contractual obligation to work more than your contracted hours. As for emploting more people - well in NHS where I work we have to find 35 million punds of savings next year - where do you think we'll get the money to empliy more people?

SomeBozo

I wish people wouild research their comments more :

You are under no contractual obligation to work more than your contracted hours

Under A4C it depends on the band you are on, what you are being asked to do and the nature of the work. If you are a band 6 or below, all extra work over your hours has to be arranged in advance AND can be paid as extra time and a quarter, or as TOIL.

If it is band 7 or above, your contract states "You will do the hours as required to do the job and dictated by the needs of the service".

This is not a remit to do lots of extra hours but to ask what is causing the extra work.

Bozo

ohreally

SomeBozo wrote: »

I wish people wouild research their comments more :



Under A4C it depends on the band you are on, what you are being asked to do and the nature of the work. If you are a band 6 or below, all extra work over your hours has to be arranged in advance AND can be paid as extra time and a quarter, or as TOIL.

If it is band 7 or above, your contract states "You will do the hours as required to do the job and dictated by the needs of the service".

All staff in bands 1-7 will be eligable for o/t payments at a harmonised rate of time plus one half exept for p/h's which will be paid at double time time . Rate based on hourly pay plus any long term r&r premia.

Can you clarify the time plus ¼ reference?

lal1234

Somebozo - my contract certainly doesn't state that?! Can you point to where this is in the A4C handbook? The natural conclusion from your statement would be that anyone over band 7 doesn't have contracted hours (which they do) and that if I managed to get through my work quickly I could just go home.... I wish!

storminbalder

Primrose wrote: »

Whilst you may justifiably feel aggrieved that you've been asked to take on more work, I really don't think this is the time for you to be putting your head up above the parapet and wanting more money when every day hundreds of people in the private sector are being made redundant without any hope of another job in sight. So far employees in the public sector seem to have been protected against job losses so it may be more sensible to settle for still having a job, rather than asking for a pay increase.

You are wrong. You only have to look at what has happened in Nottingham and numerous other places to know this.