NEED ADVICE! girlfriend hurt at a premeirship football match ......

Tozer

I think the OP's query is whether there is a claim against the club.

I don't think there is. You would have to show that the club were negligent in some way and that the actions of the nutter-fan were reasonably forseeable and that loss was caused as a result of the club's negligence. You will struggle with this.

Of course, you would have a claim against the fan although tracing him will be tricky.

simpywimpy

I agree with Tozer about the negligence aspect but perhaps you could argue that point with the fact that the away fans were in such close proximity to the home fans. Were you playing a team that are particularly known for violence? In these cases the clubs have to take extra measures.

The club does have a duty of care towards its spectators and being trampled or attacked on the actual game does seem a lapse on their part. If you do intend to pursue a claim I would advise you to get your girlfriend seem by her GP to have a record of her injuries made as soon as you can.

redmike123

Bloody Everton Fans !

Freddie_Snowbits

Oh dear, Premiersh1t football and no crowd trouble. Now let me see, a quick search of You Tube pulls up some interesting things. As opposed on, I always go to football and evaluate each game as necessary. I do not wear club colours, wear a balaclava and dark glasses, so as the 'Caught on Camera van' gets a fill, nor drink prioir to the match. I never sit near the away fans, in fact I will stand more on the terrace.

As for trouble, the last three occassion have been caused by the PC Plods interferring in the arrangements.

LinasPilibaitisisbatman

Stewards have no additional right in law to use force

who would you sue if it happened in the street?

Your recourse is to involve the police and make a claim to the criminal injuries people, I suspect you wont have much sucess though.

Its unreasonable to expect football clubs to prevent all such incidents, just take reasonable precautions which you can guarentee they approve with the police.

fedupconsumer

lets be clear the club failed to protect you and your party they were negligant. It would be in their stadium rules that this person should have been arrested on site and the stewards should have restrained him and called the police. The other person certainly would have been charged with public order offenses and also assault. Those two alone would result in the person having a ban from the ground.

"Your recourse is to involve the police and make a claim to the criminal injuries people, I suspect you wont have much sucess though."

Clubs have very sophisticated CCTV systems he will have success police and the footballing authorities take a dim view on football violence and are on a real crack down.

"Its unreasonable to expect football clubs to prevent all such incidents, just take reasonable precautions which you can guarentee they approve with the police.

It is certainly not unresonable they have a legal duty to protect fans.


I certainly would corelate a letter with doctors notes and other medical evidence and send it to the club and get a hold of a copy of the stadium guidelines it sounds that the stewards and officals did not follow it which is concerning. Good Luck

pulliptears

Freddie_Snowbits wrote: »

As for trouble, the last three occassion have been caused by the PC Plods interferring in the arrangements.

Spot on Freddie. Im a season ticket holder at our club, who have a reputation that precedes them unfortunately. Though this is the minority all fans are treated with the same contempt at away matches and police have been heavy handed in the extreme, in one case putting a group of our fans on a bus back home when they were sitting enjoying a quiet pre match drink in a pub!

As for the OP, personally I would just send a message to the club, but to be honest it is sadly something that is to be expected in the section near to the away fans. That doesn't make it right, but football matches will never be fluffy warm places to be.
The police should have good CCTV footage of the away fans as well.

Tozer

fedupconsumer wrote: »

lets be clear the club failed to protect you and your party they were negligant. It would be in their stadium rules that this person should have been arrested on site and the stewards should have restrained him and called the police. The other person certainly would have been charged with public order offenses and also assault. Those two alone would result in the person having a ban from the ground.

"Your recourse is to involve the police and make a claim to the criminal injuries people, I suspect you wont have much sucess though."

Clubs have very sophisticated CCTV systems he will have success police and the footballing authorities take a dim view on football violence and are on a real crack down.

"Its unreasonable to expect football clubs to prevent all such incidents, just take reasonable precautions which you can guarentee they approve with the police.

It is certainly not unresonable they have a legal duty to protect fans.


I certainly would corelate a letter with doctors notes and other medical evidence and send it to the club and get a hold of a copy of the stadium guidelines it sounds that the stewards and officals did not follow it which is concerning. Good Luck

Yes, the club would have a duty to provide a reasonably safe environment. However, they can probably easily demonstrate that they discharged this duty by providing police and steward protection which was reasonable in the circumstances.

The hooligan in question is completely liable - but tracing willl be very difficult.

I cannot see how a case can be made against the club itself.

Oh, and every football match I have ever been to has had only a few seats dividing home and away fans - albeit usually with nets in between.

fedupconsumer

" The hooligan in question is completely liable - but tracing willl be very difficult."

not in this day and age we had a case at the club that the police had to trace about 30 supporters after an incident. The police traced the majority of them its not that difficult these days.

" I cannot see how a case can be made against the club itself."

I beg to differ the OP has a very very strong case that the club not only did not adher to their own stadium policy , stewards failed to protect fans, arrests were not made and no proper report was made at the time. All in all a monumental muck up , I to have had to receive medical attention whilst at a football ground after a fellow fans abuse and there are clear procedures in place which were followed in some form in this case they were not it is a compleat breakdown of the saftey procedures and legal requirements at the club concerned.

Tozer

fedupconsumer wrote: »

" The hooligan in question is completely liable - but tracing willl be very difficult."

not in this day and age we had a case at the club that the police had to trace about 30 supporters after an incident. The police traced the majority of them its not that difficult these days.

" I cannot see how a case can be made against the club itself."

I beg to differ the OP has a very very strong case that the club not only did not adher to their own stadium policy , stewards failed to protect fans, arrests were not made and no proper report was made at the time. All in all a monumental muck up , I to have had to receive medical attention whilst at a football ground after a fellow fans abuse and there are clear procedures in place which were followed in some form in this case they were not it is a compleat breakdown of the saftey procedures and legal requirements at the club concerned.

We are going to have to disagree then I am afraid. How do you know what the stadium policy is? How can stewards guarantee to protect fans? Who should have made the arrests? How would that have stopped the injury?

You would have to demonstrate not only that the procedures were not followed but ALSO that this caused the loss.