mobility vehicle?

Pete268

Regarding use of a vehicle with a 'Disabled Tax Disc' as ALL Motability cars are nowadays taxed as disabled (a Motability leases car can on longer be taxed as PLG for example) it would seem to be the Disabled Tax Disc that does cause this constant query over use of the vehicle by someone else.

The Direct Gov website, with regard to using a vehicle with disabled tax does state:

To claim exemption from vehicle tax, the vehicle must be registered in your name or registered in the name of someone you nominate to drive for you (a nominee).
The vehicle must only be used for your purposes, for example shopping or getting prescriptions.
If it is being used by the nominee or someone else for their own personal needs, then the exemption will be lost and the normal rate of vehicle tax must be paid.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/MotoringAndTransport/Yourvehicleandlicence/DG_10028003 refers.

This does seem clear cut that the vehicle can only be used for the purposes of the disabled person and when I personally queried with the DVLA what 'for the purposes of the disabled person' actually meant in practice, I got the reply that it is such as shopping or collecting prescriptions for the disabled person and not for any other use by any other person'.

So, whilst Motability 'per se' do not rule out useage by another person, it is actually their policy of taxing all leased vehicles in the disabled taxation class that by default restricts the vehicle's use.

Peter

homealone_2

PolishBigSpender wrote: »

You do realise that this is strictly against the hire scheme rules, to the best of my understanding?

Likewise, it will be against the rules for your son to drive the car if it isn't being used for your benefit.

TAKEN FROM THE MOTABILITY WEBSITE

"The car may be used by any named driver without the Disabled person eg..the customers spouse may use the car to travel to work, go shopping and other routine activities from which the disabled person derives an identifiable benefit"

3onitsway

Hi everyone - just a warning. Polishbigspender needs to be ignored!! TROLL!!

He pops up on various threads spouting utter carp - just to get a reaction I think.:mad:

Have a look at his previous posts - he seems to know very little about a lot of subjects!



Anyway - the point of my post! Motability said i was fine using my sons car for work/shopping etc, with our without my son, as they can be seen as being for his benefit.

PolishBigSpender

homealone wrote: »

TAKEN FROM THE MOTABILITY WEBSITE

"The car may be used by any named driver without the Disabled person eg..the customers spouse may use the car to travel to work, go shopping and other routine activities from which the disabled person derives an identifiable benefit"

Which is what I said.

The car is for the benefit of the disabled person. It is not for the benefit of any other driver.

It is clear that the car is not for a named driver to commute to work or for their own pleasure.

As for the people claiming that it's acceptable to use the car for commuting to work - do you really want to run the risk of having an accident uninsured? The insurance will NOT cover you for commmuting to a workplace - unless it's to transport the disabled driver.

calleyw

homealone wrote: »

TAKEN FROM THE MOTABILITY WEBSITE

"The car may be used by any named driver without the Disabled person eg..the customers spouse may use the car to travel to work, go shopping and other routine activities from which the disabled person derives an identifiable benefit"

Take from the DVLA website

"The vehicle must only be used for your purposes, for example shopping or getting prescriptions.If it is being used by the nominee or someone else for their own personal needs, then the exemption will be lost and the normal rate of vehicle tax must be paid."

Does not mention work that comes under the someone else person needs

So you can see how the DVLA and mobility are saying different things. Personally I would believe the DVLA any day over mobility.
Also I don't see how going to work benefits the disabled person. As the person would work and run a car without the disabled person in the house.

Yours

Calley

black_paw

i spent a bout 6 months trying to find a comfy car , found that 8 veil ( can't spell ) engines are no good unless its up and down the street , fast roads they lose power , so need 16 v ones . i needed automatic which can narrow it down , my mum had fiat 16v Punto auto which was brill , but lent it to me for while but not sell , don't make them any more, after trying every car on earth , and my brother really enjoying him self being tester as well , soon know what suited me of not , some auto cars jump changing up/down gears which did my neck in , angle of windscreen made my sick like in C2/3 cars .throught would never find one but in end got VW POLO auto 2 door , doors open real wide and big solid boot , a dream. second car was a peugeot and third was a MICRA, you realy have to try cars out , as they may look nice ,but when you drive them it's a different matter. Good luck

Edinburghlass_2

calleyw wrote: »

Take from the DVLA website

"The vehicle must only be used for your purposes, for example shopping or getting prescriptions.If it is being used by the nominee or someone else for their own personal needs, then the exemption will be lost and the normal rate of vehicle tax must be paid."

Does not mention work that comes under the someone else person needs

So you can see how the DVLA and mobility are saying different things. Personally I would believe the DVLA any day over mobility.
Also I don't see how going to work benefits the disabled person. As the person would work and run a car without the disabled person in the house.

Yours

Calley

The DVLA website quote is regarding getting the free car tax for a car whereas Motability is using the entire DLA to buy a car through them, two different things. If you buy a Motability car then it can be used for the reasons given above.

calleyw

Edinburghlass wrote: »

The DVLA website quote is regarding getting the free car tax for a car whereas Motability is using the entire DLA to buy a car through them, two different things. If you buy a Motability car then it can be used for the reasons given above.

Mobility provide the car with a disabled tax disc so that means the same rules apply to the tax disc no matter where or how the car is purchased. On the DVLA website I don't see it says there are any exceptions for mobility cars. And I am well aware of how mobility cars are funded, but just because you are using your DLA to pay for the car does not mean the rules are any different.

So what you are saying with out any proof, that because I purchase a car via mobility that I don't have to adhere to the rules laid down by the DVLA. But to get a disabled tax disc for my private car I do have to adhere to the rules. Sorry I don't believe or can't believe that is the rules. And if it is then it is not fair and the rules needs to be changed to make it fair for all.

Yours

Calley