Can anyone explain .....

bellybug

hi there - I'm new on here so I apologise if this question has already been posted. Just wondered if anyone is able to explain to me why CSA want my details - Ni Number/earnings etc.

My husband of 10 years has a 18 year old daughter who is doing her second art foundation course, we have paid support voluntarily by direct debit for both her and her older sister who is now 20 ever since DH left ist wife. Older daughter left school at 16 and moved out and got a job. However we still kept paying for another year, even though we have two very young children of our own. Things then got tight for us with childcare costs etc ( I went back to work when first child 4 months old) and so we halved payments.

Csa then get involved and original payments doubled!! Husband then loses his job and has no income - he now brings up children as my wages are low and we cannot afford childcare costs.

Now CSA want details of all I earn - surely they cannot expect me to pay for 18 year old woman/child when my income barely feeds the two small children i have. I have worked to bring in a wage since my children were born and have missed out so much on then while DH ex-wife or her partner still wont get a job :mad:


sorry - rant over !!!

kelloggs36

If hubby earns nothing, then he will get a nil assessment and your income details are not needed - if he had income of his own, then they would need your details to be able to complete the full assessment (to determine whether you get a reduction in the assessment which is based on his income alone). As he has nil income then your income is totally redundant as far as the assessment is concerned.

pd001

kelloggs36 wrote: »

then they would need your details to be able to complete the full assessment (to determine whether you get a reduction in the assessment which is based on his income alone). As he has nil income then your income is totally redundant as far as the assessment is concerned.

But you are under no obligation to give them if you don't want to. Its entirely up to you. Its personal to you and legally they can't force or coerce you into giving the information.

you need to discuss this with your husband

bellybug

Thanks kelllogs36 - thats what I thought which is why I didnt understand why they were asking for my details after they had received husbands P45 !! Guess I was worried that they were trying to use my salary for his assessment !

bellybug

Thankyou so much for that info pd001 - if I dont have to give them it I wont. if my husband has no income then what are they to gain my accessing all my personal details. problem is they keep threatening that if they dont recieve my details they cannot change the support given to his ex - thereby giving me a bill of £63.00 per week which i cannot possibly pay. I also read in another thread that spouses info was passed on to the ex partner in a breakdown of how award was worked out. I certainly dont want this to happen - i may not earn much but it is personal and private!!

kelloggs36

In a situation where an NRP has an income and subsequent positive assessment, I would be careful about refusing to supply the info. Reason being that if the PWC applies for a departure on the grounds that you can contribute towards housing costs, they will automatically assume you can contribute and will normally default to a 50/50 split but can award anything up to 99% of housing costs to partner which can substantially increase the assessment payable. If you earn less than the NRP then I would give the details for damage limitation purposes, as it will then be done exactly in proportion to what you earn.

highlandgurl

Yep the other posters are correct - you are not legally obliged to provide details of your income. When my OH kept getting letters from the CSA asking for my income i eventually phoned them and said to stop writing as i had no children, was not involved with CSA in any case and had no legal obligation to give them my info. The woman i spoke to agreed that i was correct and we had no further requests about me.

I dont see how they can refuse to reconsider your husbands payments unless given your financial details when they have no legal right to this information in the first place.

As your husband is not working and your income cannot be used in the assessment i would continue to refuse to give it.

skibadee

As a matter of interest...does this apply to cases still on CSA1?.....or are partners of NRP's legally obliged to give their income details if on CSA1?
reason I ask is OH pays regular maintenance plus extra for alledged arrears.....I really need to go back to work as financially we are at rock bottom but have been reluctant to do so as I presumed my income...although not taken into account for assessment..would be classed as extra and therefore payments would go up.......this happened about 10 years ago when I WAS working?

Monkeyharris_2

Skibadee no new partners are legally obliged to provide their income details. However, if you have included your details in the past when you were not working then your OH may have got the benefit of a reduction to his maintenance payments. So if you start work the payments may go up as you can contribute to the household thereby increasing the disposable income of the house. If you've never given your details though your OH will only ever have been assessed using his income so your income won't make a difference.

pd001

kelloggs36 wrote: »

In a situation where an NRP has an income and subsequent positive assessment, I would be careful about refusing to supply the info. Reason being that if the PWC applies for a departure on the grounds that you can contribute towards housing costs, they will automatically assume you can contribute and will normally default to a 50/50 split but can award anything up to 99% of housing costs to partner which can substantially increase the assessment payable. If you earn less than the NRP then I would give the details for damage limitation purposes, as it will then be done exactly in proportion to what you earn.

Normally default to 50/50 as you say, but how often do they award 99%?

pd001

skibadee wrote: »

As a matter of interest...does this apply to cases still on CSA1?.....or are partners of NRP's legally obliged to give their income details if on CSA1?
reason I ask is OH pays regular maintenance plus extra for alledged arrears.....I really need to go back to work as financially we are at rock bottom but have been reluctant to do so as I presumed my income...although not taken into account for assessment..would be classed as extra and therefore payments would go up.......this happened about 10 years ago when I WAS working?

NO, the partners of NRP's on csa 1 cases are not legally obliged to give any details at all.
If you don't want to give details about yourself then dont and make sure that your partner doesn't accidentally give them.
You should discuss this with your other half