Paul McKenna "I Can Make You Thin!"

Honey39

luc24 wrote: »

well i wish i cud say i have been doing well but i havent at all, the relaxed freedom i felt around food lasted aroud 2 weeks and then turned into relaxed il eat what i want whenever, so not good. i have treated it too much like a diet and now i just cant seem to do it at all, im eating wen im bored and av nothing to do and its the pitts

the only thing i seem to still be doing is stopping when im full which is a start i suppose but im still getting these 'failure' feelings...

Awww, but that's a good start - stopping when you're full! Give yourself credit for that.

I think that it's an interesting programme to be on; I suspect that although it's easy in some ways, you DO have to work hard at it and be tenacious. I know what you mean though.

I find that it's important to eat and only eat when you're eating: no reading, no television, nothing else at all. I tend to listen to the CD as I eat, which is a bit dull, but for me, it's definitely important to slow right down and focus exclusively on eating and nothing else.

I use the scale from 1 to 10 a lot as well!

The other thing I'm going to start doing prperly is to drink loads of water and start taking more exercise.

I understand what you mean, but I do think that there are important things to do as well as being relaxed around food!

jomo70

luc24 wrote: »

well i wish i cud say i have been doing well but i havent at all, the relaxed freedom i felt around food lasted aroud 2 weeks and then turned into relaxed il eat what i want whenever, so not good. i have treated it too much like a diet and now i just cant seem to do it at all, im eating wen im bored and av nothing to do and its the pitts

the only thing i seem to still be doing is stopping when im full which is a start i suppose but im still getting these 'failure' feelings...

Have you read beyond chocolate...that might give you a boost, well worth reading!

Bitsy_Beans

luc24 wrote: »

well i wish i cud say i have been doing well but i havent at all, the relaxed freedom i felt around food lasted aroud 2 weeks and then turned into relaxed il eat what i want whenever, so not good. i have treated it too much like a diet and now i just cant seem to do it at all, im eating wen im bored and av nothing to do and its the pitts

the only thing i seem to still be doing is stopping when im full which is a start i suppose but im still getting these 'failure' feelings...

I've done that in the past. I focused on the "have what you want" principle and ignored all the others
Don't feel a failure, that will just lead to more eating. You've made these habits over a long time, they're not just going to disappear within 2 weeks. The last few days I've been eating when I wasn't quite hungry (that time of the month too so I wonder if that is part of it?!).

Take a deep breath and as PMK states in his book if you only follow one principle make it Eat Consciously. At this way you are tuning in to what you are eating and if you aren't hungry then it shouldn't (in theory) be as enjoyable.

Next time you hear those negative voices in your head I want you to repeat them in a really silly sounding voice. I've done it myself and it really negates the effect of those doubting voices.
You can do this, it just takes time. If you succeed first time you won't learn anything. Failure teaches us where our weaknesses are so we can work how to avoid/stop them.

Bitsy_Beans

Blinkin' 'eck all I want to do is eat today :mad:

Honey39

Bitsy_Beans wrote: »

Blinkin' 'eck all I want to do is eat today :mad:

Are you hungry? I was famished when I had my period, and I did eat a lot - it was actually pretty good to do that, I felt great and it didn't last. Maybe it's just listening to what your body wants???

I've been drinking loads of water today, and I hope that makes difference. I know I just don't drink enough water, so over the next 15 day stretch, I'm going to experiment and do pretty much the same but drink stacks of water - the proper amount! - and see if that makes a difference. I suspect it will. I find it so hard to drink water, which is insane, isn't it? I've been sipping from a bottle though, and instead of glugging it back, I've been trying to have a few sips every fifteen minutes or so. I've got through two litres easily without that waterlogged feeling!

Anyway, hope you're having a good day!

Bitsy_Beans

Honey39 wrote: »

Are you hungry? I was famished when I had my period, and I did eat a lot - it was actually pretty good to do that, I felt great and it didn't last. Maybe it's just listening to what your body wants???

I've been drinking loads of water today, and I hope that makes difference. I know I just don't drink enough water, so over the next 15 day stretch, I'm going to experiment and do pretty much the same but drink stacks of water - the proper amount! - and see if that makes a difference. I suspect it will. I find it so hard to drink water, which is insane, isn't it? I've been sipping from a bottle though, and instead of glugging it back, I've been trying to have a few sips every fifteen minutes or so. I've got through two litres easily without that waterlogged feeling!

Anyway, hope you're having a good day!

Not sure TBH. Had a hollow/squirmy feeling in belly today and my mum has had D&V bug so not sure if was to do with that (no other symptoms thank goodness). Felt a bit stressed today too so probably a combination of period, hollow feeling and stress. What a cracking day today has been

No I don't find it insane that drinking water is hard. I don't drink anywhere near enough water, I just don't enjoy it that much. And that's with squash added! Just plain water from the tap bleugh!
I really should drink more but whatever drink I prepare myself DS decides to help himself to and drinks most of it..........

jomo70

No I don't find it insane that drinking water is hard. I don't drink anywhere near enough water, I just don't enjoy it that much. And that's with squash added! Just plain water from the tap bleugh!
I really should drink more but whatever drink I prepare myself DS decides to help himself to and drinks most of it..........[/QUOTE]

Lol my DS1 and DS2 are exactly the same...drives me mad!!

I've not had a good day today, got my period also, and wanted to eat chocolate all day :rolleyes:

Then made the mistake of weighing myself 2 days ago which showed I had lost nearly a stone (woooo) and then weighed myself again today which showed me as being 5lbs more!!!!!:eek: ( I know I know ...leave those scales alone!!) I'm telling myself its my period :A

Honey39

Day 30: Second weigh-in. I've lost a stone - I suspect it is a bit more, to be honest, but I feel like I'm retaining a lot of water just now. Was hoping it would be more (I KNOW, stupid, huh?!), but then I realised that I have followed this almost painlessly for thirty days, no massive cravings, no feelings of deprivation, nothing much. I honestly feel like I can do this for the rest of my life - I have never felt like that before. Never.

Anyway, as I think I wrote above, my challenge for the next fifteen days is to:

i). Carry on exactly as before in eating slowly etc
ii). Stop weighing. It's not healthy
iii). Make a conscious effort to drink a LOT more water. I have definitely felt even less hungry today because I've drunk a lot of water. So many advantages too - helps with skin, eyes, hair, bowels (sorry!), wrinkles, concentration, hunger and speeds up weight loss. So am definitely committed to doing this!

I also know I'm committed to doing this because I've ordered my next 90 day Journal from amazon today. I wish more people were doing this, though - I can't find any forums or anything (other than this one, which is fab ). It seems to me to be the best weight loss system ever, so freeing and so long-term.

I also feel like it's saving me money. I made gnocchi with roasted veg tonight, and I got five meals out of it, whereas previously I would have got two. I've frozen three of them to have for lunches at work when I don't have anything else in. I'm not buying crisps/sweeties/ice cream/takeaways, so also saying a lot of money.

It's been good. One third through my control experiment, and I feel committed to staying on it for the next sixty days - imagine, I could be three stone lighter by then!! Woo hoo

Bitsy_Beans

Well done Honey. You're doing really well.

Jomo - I too weighed myself this morning 2lbs back on but then I do weigh more during my period so that coupled with perhaps picking more when I am not hungry I am not really suprised. Not going to let the negative thoughts that are hovering at the back get to me though
I am going to make a conscious effort to drink more water (OK it will have squash in it but it's got to better than nothing!).

Honey39

Day 31: Have drunk stacks of water - so much! I'm hungry/dissatisfied tonight though. I feel restless, like I want to binge. So I've just had a nice tea, but I feel...a bit 'off'.

Today's journal was the message "Press on" - I liked this entry a lot (it's in the ninety day journal). He says that it's important to keep the passion burning and the commitment alive. That makes sense to me - there is a quote saying that nothing can take the place of persistence, not talent, not genius, not education. That makes a lot of sense to me with this programme. It's not about one click and that's everything sorted for life.

I've read a few forums/reviews of this, and it does seem that people are delighted at first, and then a few months go by and they slip back into their old habits. I can understand that - I do feel the tug; these were my habits for 20-plus years, and I'm retraining my brain to be different around food. It's not that it's a struggle, exactly, but it's more that I need to be tenacious, vigilant and persistent. I like the fact that there is no checking of how much food I've eaten, no points, no scales. It's all about the attitude towards food, and if I get it wrong that doesn't mean anything - it just means that I have to keep trying until it's ingrained.

I want this to work so very badly. I can't even explain how much I want it to work, without becoming a 'diet'. I think I need to have some more 'bad' food in the house, because unwittingly my house is empty of temptations, and I think maybe that's putting me in mind of how it used to be when I was dieting - no 'nice' food.

Okay, that's my resolution for tomorrow:
- Be CONSCIOUS and persistent about my eating habits
- Drink loads of water again
- Go and buy some nice tit-bits - nice yoghurt, some icecream, just some bits to tempt me after tea.