Paul McKenna "I Can Make You Thin!"

gingernutbizkit

My copy of Beyond Chocolate arrived this morning and I'm struggling to put it down

Why has it taken me so long to understand something so basic?
Ging x

Honey39

Well, I've just started doing the Paul McKenna thing yesterday - I know it's only been two days, but it seems the sanest way to lose weight to me.

So I'm committed to doing it for the next ninety days, and I kind of want to record exactly how I do. Weightwatchers and diets do NOT work for me. I have the sense that this is the answer for my warped relationship with food and it as a substitute for love/comfort. Yikes, feels kind of weird posting that here, but I wanted to keep a record somewhere, and I found this lovely forum

jomo70

I too have not long started this diet, I managed to get the book and CD from freecycle (result!) and after a week I've lost 3lb which I'm pleased with considering what I've been eating....(not large amounts obviously but its great not to feel deprived from chocolate or crisps) The hardest part I find is being a sahm I eat because I'm bored! Has anybody tried the Hypnotheraphy route? I thought I might try this as well just to ensure I don't stay from the straight and narrow!!!

Well done everybody lets hope this diet works where all others have failed!

Bitsy_Beans

Good luck Honey. Just remember it's about changing habits for life, not just the short term. I've lost a pound last week (after reading Beyond Chocolate) and I even had pie and chips from the chippie. My weight will come of slowly and that's hard to accept BUT the slower you lose it the more likely you are to keep it off. Just don't keep weighing yourself like I did. That would then ruin my day and I'd self sabotage.............

Edited to say: keep posting here, I find it nice to be able to offload or share in tips and thoughts on this thread.

Intergalactic_Floozie

Sorry, am being a bit cheeky as I don't have time to read the whole thread.

I'm utterly desperate for help.

I've been on a cycle of binge eating followed by dieting back to binge eating for over ten years and I now have no idea what normal eating is. It might sound a bit dramatic but it's true.

I'm still desperate to lose weight but to be honest I'd settle for having a normal eating habit.

I literally think about eating constantly, don't have to be hungry to snack and it's either all or nothing. I eat as many 'treats' as I possibly can in one sitting (when binge eating) or have nothing (when dieting). If I am dieting and have just one biscuits then that;s it, it's all downhill.

So - is there anyone who had eating habits similar to mine, who has successfully changed them?

I've tried calorie counting, WW, Rosemary Conley, and milkshake diets (LL, CD & Celebrity Slim) and I can't seem to stick to any of them. I've just bought some of those Alli tablets in desparation but I'm too scared to take them as I'm not sure I could stick to a low fat diet. I'm despairing that I will ever lose weight,

I really do feel like I have an angel on one side, and a devil on the other who are always fighting with the devil coming out on top 80% of the time. Any tips?

Desperate and miserable of Yorkshire

Honey39

Well, it's been Day 3 following the ICMYT thing. It's gone pretty damn well, I think. I've followed the rules, and really enjoyed the fact that I throw out so much food!

I went out for dinner this evening, and did have a three course meal. I would say that I *wobbled* - I ate slowly and consciously, and the food was gorgeous, but I did eat beyond when I was pleasantly satisfied until when I was full. HOWEVER, I am not beating myself up about it. I really savoured every (small) mouthful, and had food that I love. The meal came to £40, so to be honest, I didn't quite feel ready to leave most of it.

The plus side is that this is not making me thing, ooh, have been 'bad', will start again. I am going to keep going with this for the full ninety days, and then evaluate.

I don't know how much to share here, but I am both very overweight and bulimic (an unsuccessful bulimic...!). I think that this is the best chance I have to both normalise my attitude towards food and hopefully lose weight. I feel very liberated about the fact that I can eat anything, and I have noticed that I have eaten a lot less than usual and not binged because of this.

I thought about this a lot, and I want to try it properly - as I said, if nothing else it should be a mechanism to tackle my bulimia; diets I think just mean that I obsess about food, or else eat the same quantities but lower calories.

Sorry to ramble, I just wanted somewhere where I could safely/anonymously track my progress with ICMYT, and say that this is something I am committing to following for three months!

Hope everyone else is okay!!

Bayblue

Hello Everyone - special welcome to Honey, jomo and IF

Just 'checking in' and writing down a few thoughts. To the newbies. I have found that this is an ideal place to record my frustrations, thoughts successes and failures, it has really really helped me to focus, and even if not many people read what I have written I've actually learnt about myself by reading my own posts. Of course reading everybody else's stories has been invaluable.

So, yep, go ahead girls and write it all down.

I am an over eater (weird- why does that suddenly sound like what people have got to say at AA meetings!?) I cannot claim to have experience of bulimia and the like, and I don't want to sound like some kind of new age evangelical hippy about it, but I think that you would both find a lot of insight in the Beyond Chocolate book that we have been talking about. I also think that once we're on the road to finding out why we eat the way that we do, if you have a particular issue like bulimia you might find it helpful to have therapy focused on that problem. Have you ever spoken to your doctor about it Honey (apols- I think it was you, Honey?). I dislike the idea of talking to anyone- I'm a fine one to talk :rolleyes:.. but I do know that treatment techniques have greatly improved in recent years. IF, I do understand how you feel- believe me I think that most of us have felt pretty desperate about wanting to lose weight and having tried every diet despairing of how we're ever going to actually do it. That's the very reason I think that we have to change not what we eat but how we eat it.

I can imagine the temptation of Alli, that bloody woman on the cardboard cut out seems like she's been haunting me for months. I can't really say what you should do, there are so many diets and aids to slimming out there (and even on this forum) everybody's got to find out for what works for themselves. What I can tell you is that I believe that this method, or a variation on it, is in my opinion the ONLY one which will work long term for most people. Now, I won't lie, if I want to take those tablets (apart from crapping out a chip pans worth of oil every other day) I know that I'd be thrilled with the weight loss. But, then what? Presumably it's not practical to take them for life, I'd be back to the same old same old, slimmer certainly, but then I've been slim before and I soon found my way back to idle porkiness. Like I said, do whats feels right for you. Personally, I have got to do something that changes me for life.

Look at me, writing a bloody essay and I was only hers for a quick progress report! Your stories must have touched a nerve girls. Oh, and talking of stories Jomo- I know that the lovely Bitsy has small children like you do, so I imagine that she will be able to share tips.

I'm doing OK, when I first started I was all gung ho about it, couldn't imagine for one minute missing a days CD listening or breaking an eating rule, but I have realised that it's still a work in progress. I have had a few slip ups, just a cheeky munch here and there, and my foot is blistered like I trekked the South Pole, so no walking at the moment. All nothing major, but enough that I would have given up in the past. The great thing is though, because I'm doing this for life, hey; it doesn't matter... I can just keep going.

It's very liberating. And I don't know, but I think that I am still, fairly slowly and steadily losing weight (I have finally hidden the damn scales out of immediate reach).

I am very happy with it.

Sorry folks, bit long and rambling tonight. I very much enjoy reading this thread, it's fast becoming my fave part of the forum. I hope to be back soon and we can share some more ideas to help each other.

Bitsy_Beans

jomo70 wrote: »

I too have not long started this diet, I managed to get the book and CD from freecycle (result!) and after a week I've lost 3lb which I'm pleased with considering what I've been eating....(not large amounts obviously but its great not to feel deprived from chocolate or crisps) The hardest part I find is being a sahm I eat because I'm bored! Has anybody tried the Hypnotheraphy route? I thought I might try this as well just to ensure I don't stay from the straight and narrow!!!

Well done everybody lets hope this diet works where all others have failed!

Hi Jomo,
I am currently at home with 2 small kids so know how you feel. I am not bored "bored" but eating has passes the time sometimes. My biggest issue this week has been tiredness. I've felt exhausted and I eat to keep me awake, keep me going and just because I feel so fatigued
In the past I've had made myself feel lousy for doing this but after reading Beyond chocolate I am trying to be kinder to myself. I am trying to view food as just food, not bad or good. and I try and pause before reaching for something to eat. its hard this week due to being so tired but if I end up eating it's not the end of the world. I won't feel like this forever so why waste time making myself feel bad. I am doing the best i can at the moment and that should be enough for me. I don't expect more than that from other people.

Floozie - it's not so much a tip but more of changing your attitude to yourself and food. I wouldn't take the Alli (but that's just me). You're substituting one diet for another. They haven't worked for you so why punish yourself with another one? Can you get a copy of Paul McKenna? It might change the way you view your relationship with food.

jomo70

Bitsy- Exactly, I'm not bored of being at home with my boys,wouldn't change that for the world, but the same ol, same ol sometimes get to me, and i seem to be constantly thinking of food...AAAHHHHHH! Anyway seem to be getting on ok I'm doing ok...(and repeat)

The next on my list is to read beyond chocolate.

IF- I too have a bad relationship with food, would eat when nobody was around and stuff myself not really even tasting the food and then beating myself up about it, Why? I can't tell you but writing on here is helping me understand...if that makes sense!? and I haven't done this since I started PM.

This thread is great

Intergalactic_Floozie

Hello ladies, I've got Paul McKenna on my i-pod. I think it's the most sensible approach that I have come across yet, to be honest, not to mention the cheapest!

However I have ruined it again today by coming in hungry and scoffing about six chocolate biscuits and cheese on toast for lunch. I feel like "I've blown it" now so may as well carry on overeating!