lady electricity con by landlord DESPERATE

Joe_Bloggs

I think that the Landlord is out or order and has not kept up with the trends in energy pricing . If you can identify the wires that split off into the other residence you may be able to use a device similar to this.
J_B. (What do CAB have to say ?)

mouseymousey99

Hello - I read this a bit earlier and trotted off for a think. If you can't get the landlord to amend this situation (which is bad bad)....I would personally give notice - its a renters market and no way should you have to put with this. I'm sure he won't want you to leave!! Be sure to tell all the locals why you are leaving too....(ie local pub/shop etc etc).
Best wishes

Joyful

The only way around this is for your Landlord either to fit a separate meter which may cost a lot of money for pipework etc or fit a sub meter. This is typically done when there is one billing meter and extra meters are attached to it for flatlets that measure their electricity but the bill still goes to the owner of the billing meter - unless the sub meter is a prepayment one. In that case the money would be collected by the Landlord from the PP meter and used to pay a proportion of the Billing meter.

Until that happens there will be no way to know your usage unless the other persons electricity is switched off.

I feel for you and think the Landlord should be made to take action and pay towards your current bill. The Electricity companies will not get involved in this. It is between you and your Landlord. I hope you can get help.

skint-student-nurse

omg, thats so unfair..surely the LL taking money for electricity from the tenant and not giving it you is obtaining money by deception?! i agree with those who previously said start a paper trail and i hope this gets sorted out in your favour.

problem123

the other utilities he is not paying for either. however my gas hasnt amounted to too much as the bedsit doesnt use anything that works on gas, only electric!!in terms of water rates, again the bills are solely in my name and of course the downstairs flat have their own bills.

my landlord is indeed receiving money for bills from the bedsit tennant but hasnt passed anything over to me to contribute towards them.

RomansProperties

My advice to start with would be to withold the rent from the Landlord for a month. He will start to take notice of you then.
I would also try and get the other tenant on your side as he has nothing to loose the Landlord signed a contract with him agreeing his rent including all bills.
Has the bedsit got a seperate fuse box so all their power can be turned off?
It must be possible to fit a landlord meter to calculate his costs if everything is electric?
http://www.matrixmetering.com/index.htm
Thats the company we use for the meters
We have a lot of houses that are converted into studio self contained flats. We have 1 main meter which we pay the bill to the elec company and then all the flats are on card meters so they pay for what they use.
We have a landlords section for paying for heating and lighting in the hall ways.
Hope this helps.

RomansProperties

Just to give you more information.
We have 1 property which is split into 6 self contained studios/1 bed flats.
Everything is electric as the gas has been disconnected.
Between 1st December and 1st Jan the whole building used 2424Units.
We pay 8.252p per unit so it works out at £200.02 for 6 flats for 1 month.

edgex

Sounds like the building could have been converted into 2 flats to start with, & then the upstairs converted again.

The problem could be splitting out the previous consumption.
Could you estimate your own consumption, based on the electrical appliances you have, eg fridge/freezer, tv etc


I cant see how the LL can include the bills in one rental contract, & not another, & not even know how much someone is using.
You do have to wonder what else they are up to.

Are you paying for metered water as well? Or just your own water rates, based on only the part of the property you are in?

the_bread_baron

you have the legal right to challenge this. contact your landlord, tell him you intend to take him to court for the costs of the 3rd party electrical use, and also if / when you win you will pursue him for full legal costs.

contact EDF and inform them of the situation and only pay what they read - which was £348 informing them of the landlords address for the remainder of that £2000 bill.

simmer for 2 months.....

Lucky7-1985

£2000 is loads even for two flats, there is no reason you should be expected to pay for this. I suggest finding out if there was planning permission to convert the property into the 3 apartments, are you paying for other things like council tax for the other person, I know other people have said about water and gas meters. get as much information as you can then take it to the citizen advise.

Also do you have gase safety cert? when was the conversion done, does the electrical wiring confirm to Part P

You also need to calculate everything electrical in you house, there are online calculators, also the only thing I can think which may use that much electricity in the summer as well is lamps to grow herbs if you know what I mean.