Married couples 'punished by tax system'

krisskross

The_White_Horse wrote: »

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and whats more, why don't you call an election you dour usurper coward???

i think he is waiting for 50% of the country to be on benefits and the other 50% in public sector work. then, with his army of ready made dependent voters, the coward might have the guts to get a mandate from the people!

Won't be long then. I bet a huge percentage of the population claim a benefit of some sort. I honestly think it is probably more than 50% now.

harry_w

PasturesNew wrote: »

Tax mens' willies.

That's what the CSA is for.

Consent to intercourse is not consent to parenthood.

CiciBaltimore

i never knew that

SingleSue

The_White_Horse wrote: »

i can't be bothered to read the thread as its too late, and this may already have been said. I shall say it anyway.

This stupid govt rewards stupidy, !!!!lessness, laziness and whatever else they can find, which isn't working hard, obeying the law and doing the right thing.

this govt make my stomach churn. they are scum of the highest order.

stop helping chavs and parasites and the scum of society, and start helping the taxpayer.

and whats more, why don't you call an election you dour usurper coward???

i think he is waiting for 50% of the country to be on benefits and the other 50% in public sector work. then, with his army of ready made dependent voters, the coward might have the guts to get a mandate from the people!

Erm, not everyone on benefits vote Labour.
Not everyone who is claiming a benefit is lazy, parasites, chavvy or scum.

Those taxpayers could also find themselves out of jobs in the current economic climate....and I can tell you now, they will not take kindly to being called scum and lazy (and they would probably not vote Labour either!)

Yes you can get the 'scum' element but it does not mean that everyone who is claiming benefits, is scum.

Neither are all those who claim a benefit, stupid.

And as someone else has said, you can be working and claiming a benefit (WTC)...are they scum too? They are tax payers but by your definition, they are lazy and scum for claiming.

Glen0000

SingleSue wrote: »

And as someone else has said, you can be working and claiming a benefit (WTC)...are they scum too? They are tax payers but by your definition, they are lazy and scum for claiming.

I think scum is a bit harsh, but stupid is pretty fair. I know people on £14k with 3 kids claiming 100's a week in WTC. Who in their right mind would bring 3 kids into the world when earning so little? This government enables people like that and taxes hard working married couples to high heaven to pay for it , meaning we can only afford to have one child even with both of us working. How is that fair?

Glen0000

SingleSue wrote: »

In the early days of our marriage, I earnt around 3-4 times as much as my husband, he didn't like it much but then I applied myself and had ambition...he was a stick in the mud. If I hadn't provided, then we wouldn't have eaten, taken nice holidays etc.

Why on earth did you a have kids with him then or even marry him for that matter?

Kenny4315

PasturesNew wrote: »

Tax mens' willies.

I'd be bankrupt ... if they taxed by the inch !!:D

Brings a new meaning to Mr Clown & Hs Darling scr*wing every last bit out of you, don't you think.

SingleSue

Glen0000 wrote: »

Why on earth did you a have kids with him then or even marry him for that matter?

It's a long story but part of it includes love and the other part includes the fact we were never supposed to be able to have children.

That covers the why I married him and why we had children although what that has to do with my statement is confusing. I earnt more than him pre children, when we met I didn't, when we found out I wasn't supposed to be able to have children, I threw myself into my career and took chances...hence the high salary.

He didn't, hence the lower one.

They say love is blind.....well it certainly was in my case for nearly 20 years!

SingleSue

Glen0000 wrote: »

I think scum is a bit harsh, but stupid is pretty fair. I know people on £14k with 3 kids claiming 100's a week in WTC. Who in their right mind would bring 3 kids into the world when earning so little? This government enables people like that and taxes hard working married couples to high heaven to pay for it , meaning we can only afford to have one child even with both of us working. How is that fair?

Sometimes when you bring the children into the world, the salary is higher and the children are affordable.

Then !!!!!! happens and you have to take what work you can find, even if it only pays 14k a year.

Doesn't mean the person is stupid, just unlucky.

sdooley

As soon as any large amount of assets are accumulated the pendulum swings the other way, with marriage being far better in terms of the tax position (transfer of assets to lower earner, tax free interest, two lots of effectively transferrable annual CGT allowances and no inheritance tax if one of you dies).

The problem is for the working class / young middle class couple c.f. the single parent. But the single parent's lifestyle isn't necessarily more enjoyable, when taken in totality (visiting rights, etc).