We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Natwest...Sneaky Tricks to Get Charges??

2

Comments

  • Extant
    Extant Posts: 2,140 Forumite
    Errata wrote: »
    If people kept track of what they've spent - remember the olden days when we wrote cheques and wrote up a running balance in our cheque books - they wouldn't have any problems.

    I don't use a cheque book because I hate cheques with a blinding passion, but I keep everything I spend recorded on my Blackberry, and then input it to a program called CheckBook Pro.

    So I guess that's the modern day equivalent.
    What would William Shatner do?
  • Mark7799
    Mark7799 Posts: 4,806 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Errata wrote: »
    If people kept track of what they've spent - remember the olden days when we wrote cheques and wrote up a running balance in our cheque books - they wouldn't have any problems.

    Unfortunately, this is a badly neglected area of money-saving;)
    Gwlad heb iaith, gwlad heb galon
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 120,007 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Lloyds used to refer to these as earmarks. When they first came in (from debit cards) it was worse than now. Visa debit cards used to convert the transaction to dollars and then back to sterling and the amount of the earmark never matched the actual transaction. Earmarks used to last 5 days back then because it took so long to come through. However, when a faster one arrived the earmark would often still be on there even though the transaction had come off.

    If people managed their accounts correctly there would be no need for earmarks. Sadly that is not the case but even the earmarking system cannot make up for not controlling your own finances.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • piglet39
    piglet39 Posts: 301 Forumite
    Have to agree with what others have posted. Never 'rely' on the available balance to give you an accurate picture of where you are in your finances but look upon the fact that the bank reducing your available balance whenever you use your debit card as a courtesy to you. I am sure that it's certainly got to be better than using your card willy nilly and having every transaction 'authorised'

    In my expereience generally with most retailers the funds that have been 'earmarked' for debit transactions come through in one or two days and because of this we don't go unauthorised overdrawn. It's not the banks fault that the transaction took longer to be presented by the merchant.

    Not saying the banks aren't still charging 'scandalous' amounts in charges LOL but hopefully that will change some time soon!

    Piglet
    LBM Nov 07
    Challenges: A Payment A Day Challenge 2012 Joined 08.03.12
    PADding Total:March £57.65 April £10.10
    DFWNerd - 1041-Proud to be dealing with my debts!
    Pesky CC March 2012 £2916.73:eek:
    Debt@March 2012 (inc OD) £5615 DFD self imposed target Feb 2014
  • I bought a weekly rail season ticket (110 pounds) from a machine at the station, and the payment took 4 months to hit my bank account! I even spoke to the rail company, who said that they had some problems with new equipment, but that the payment would be taken eventually.

    I put every bank account transaction on a spreadsheet, so I knew that it was coming, but I can see how it would be very easy for this sort of thing to be missed.

    And if you miss it, there's a 35 pound fine for the bank.
  • I use an excel spreadsheet which I made myself.

    The minute I write a cheque or use the credit card I enter the amount and item. This then adjusts my available spending balance. I'm often surprised at how long things take to clear and am unable to rely on my memory. I've also noticed that credit card amounts sometimes take a while to process. Quite often I will see a pound or two in "processing transactions" sections. When my husband rang the credit card company to see what it was - they said it's the merchandiser keeping the transaction open until they are ready to take the money (eg. if stock isn't immediately available)
  • ixwood
    ixwood Posts: 2,550 Forumite
    Do people really sail that close to the wind that a small sum like £100 can mean incurring charges? Scary.

    We got paid a day or 2 late by work a while back and LOADS of people had issues with charges etc. It's shocking that some people are so financially incompetent.
  • Errata
    Errata Posts: 38,230 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I guess long version short is "If you've spent it, it isn't there - whatever your balance says"
    .................:)....I'm smiling because I have no idea what's going on ...:)
  • staffie1
    staffie1 Posts: 1,967 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic
    ixwood wrote: »
    Do people really sail that close to the wind that a small sum like £100 can mean incurring charges? Scary.

    We got paid a day or 2 late by work a while back and LOADS of people had issues with charges etc. It's shocking that some people are so financially incompetent.

    Some people are not as well educated in this area of their lives and £100 to some is a lot of money! At least they are subscribed to this site and learning how to be more competent, and recognising their problems.
    If you will the end, you must will the means.
  • Sharon87
    Sharon87 Posts: 4,011 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    I always keep a record of what I've spent, if it's only something small I tend to just remember it. Like I bought an itunes voucher on 28th December. The money came out of my available balance, but today I can access it again. I just have to remember I spent that £10 on itunes.

    I guess over Christmas merchants take longer to process transactions.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.7K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.7K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.3K Life & Family
  • 258.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.