Boom-time on benefits: The 140,000 families who claim £20,000 a year in handouts

robin_banks

It is laughable TBH, voter turn outs in poorer areas is significantly less than more affluent areas.

Some of your points are spurious to say the least, i.e. since when does the government of the day set electoral boundaries ?, and the 'on the sick' culture has been with us since the 70's.

donaldtramp

Scumbags.

Why should I work to pay tax to bring up other peoples kids?

This idea of "fairness" I keep hearing Labour speaking about is driving me insane.

Our society has been turned into
"survival of the THICKEST"

Single mothers who breed and breed and suck the life out of our country by creating generations of moochers and workshys.

Unbelievable!!

Whilst some people are working hard to provide a good life for their kids to pay the 2 thirds of people on incapacity benefit who aren't entitled to claim it!! (from the article and many other sources before anyone complains)

Labour is going to collapse this country by giving everyone their "entitlements".

Why don't they have some self respect for themselves, get up off their !!!!! and do a days work?

There would be far less unemploment in this country if we changed our mindset from;

"what am I entitled to?"
to
"what can I do?"

Gorgeous_George

Self respect seems to be a thing of the past.

The system must be improved to rid society of the selfish 'I'm no worse off sat on my a...'. Get some self respect.

GG

kennyboy66_2

minimike2 wrote: »

People might not have liked things under Conservative power before, but they were on the way to sorting the country out. The only reason people found things difficult was because they were mopping up the utter mess that Labour made in thier stretch before. Things will have to get worse before they get better and being a nanny state is something that Labour have taken to the extreme. They have no idea what to do, they have no experience in sorting out messes like this and they need to go.

Yet why do people keep voting them back in.

:rolleyes:

Before 1979 the Conservatives had been in power for 17 of the previous 28 years.

They then were in power for a further 18 years to 1997

Exactly how much longer would it have taken to "sort the country out" ?

27col

Why should people get more because they have more children. No employer would ask you how many kids you have, before deciding how much to pay you. I spent almost my whole working life doing two jobs. There should be an upper limit on how much benefit you can draw. No wonder people don't want to go to the bother of working when they can get more than their trade would pay, by staying home. They are just taking the p*** out of the rest of us, and being encouraged by Barmy Brown. It is just blatant vote buying. The socialists claim to have generated 1.3 million jobs while they have been in office. About a million have been taken by immigrants, who were prepared to work. While the idle Brits were sitting around getting benefits.
As olly300 says This government has worked so it has removed the pride from most people.

MrsE_2

beingjdc wrote: »

The Mail on Sunday, a new low...

So even the article admits that it's almost entirely housing benefit, people with a lot of kids, and the seriously disabled.

I wouldn't swap being reasonably healthy for being seriously disabled in exchange for less than the national average. In fact the seriously disabled should probably get the national average wage rather than less.

Housing benefit, if it's being paid out at above the going rate for housing, is a subsidy to landlords not tenants, so it's very nice for the Mail to demonise the people claiming, but I bet plenty of people who read that newspaper are raking it in from HB payments.

Kids are the biggest red herring out. I have some sympathy for setting a maximum after which you get no more benefits for having extra kids (though on the other hand it's hardly fair to punish the kids for having stupid parents), but Child Benefit is universal, so it's idiotic to compare someone's income from work excluding CB with someone's benefit income including it - the person with a job would get the benefit too!

Housing benefit is still income
Still part of the benefits package

Workers don't get free lodgings:rolleyes:
My roof comes out of my income, I don't class our income as whats left after housing costs:rolleyes:

I agree about landlords reaping taxpayers money, which is why i say housing benefit should be capped at the equivalent council rent for that area;)

brightonman123

right then, any lady on here wanna shack up with me??! have space for six kids, a widescreen tv, and maybe an asbo.. lol

MrsE_2

kennyboy66 wrote: »

Before 1979 the Conservatives had been in power for 17 of the previous 28 years.

They then were in power for a further 18 years to 1997

Exactly how much longer would it have taken to "sort the country out" ?

Longer than its taken GB & co. to destroy it!

Airwolf1

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

Of course you should spend as much time with your children as you can. I'm not suggesting that all parents should work a 50 hour week just so their children can see what it means to work hard. What I am saying is that children should grow up learning that you should work hard to support yourself and your family and not expect the state to do it through tax credit top ups or unemployment benefit (or whatever it's called now).

That is the problem in the UK that it is acceptable to take money from other hard working families so that an individual can have an easier life!

The problem is my salary. My main job, for what I do, pays £16k pa.

MrsE_2

donaldtramp wrote: »

Labour is going to collapse this country by giving everyone their "entitlements".

:T :T :T :T :T :T :T :T

With the recession looming I don't know how the benefits bill is going to be paid.
30k job losses from Woolworths & plenty more to come.

Less workers paying more benefits.

Common sense says benefits MUST be cut & benefits dependency time limited, but GB & co don't know much about common sense.

They are playing it by ear, not expecting to be in for much longer & aren't thinking about tomorrow.