Would you consider emigrating if the recession gets really bad here in the UK?

Generali

ad9898 wrote: »

I'm almost certainly going over to Australia within the next 4 years as my daughter is living their. 4 years are when my investments are due, however I can take them out within 4-6 weeks if was needed.

As for a comment further up asking whether all countries are affected by the current situation, I'm sure they are, however whilst Clown was spending like no tomorrow in the boom time, Australia was paying down their debt, in fact I believe at this time they are in surplus. They truely are in a position to borrow to help out their citizens.

This country is in for severe problems in the future, that I'm not sure it will recover from. We have borrowed, publicly and personally to the point of near bankruptcy, the last 11 years have been built on debt which the government are now countering by borrowing even more...... this will end in disaster for sure.

My overheads are low at the moment and I have a good job that pays well, if either of these things change, I will cash in my investments and be gone, I have $100000 aussie dollars at the given exchange rate and hope to add to this, however if I can't it's enough to get me started there.

Net I believe that Aus has nil debt although there is a gross debt. Rudd has pushed through a 'fiscal stimulus package' worth about $15bn in all that will be paid for by putting the country in debt. Aussies are pretty divided about it I think. Rudd was elected on a platform of fiscal conservatism. He's surged ahead in the polls on the back of putting the country into debt.

This week sees a massive 'one-off' bonus for pensioners, people on the dole and parents. There was an article in the SMH (http://www.smh.com.au - I can't be bothered to look for it at midnight!) basically saying it's your patriotic duty to spend the cash! Of about $8,000,000,000 handed out so far less than $3,000,000,000 has been spent, the rest has been saved or used to pay down debt.

A big problem with the give away is that in rural communities where there are problems with heavy drinking and domestic violence, families on the dole might see a one-off trebling of their income. The papers have been desperate to avoid the phrase red-neck, wife beating alcoholics but it's clearly what they mean.

$100k is plenty to start a new life here. I've come with bgger all but then I can stay with the in laws until I get things sorted out.

Kez100

I doubt we will but I am very encouraging of languages with the children and ensuring they grow up knowing they have worldwide choices.

We thought about it a few years ago but I won't, not for any money, leave my parents without regular contact in person with their grandchildren. They don't have any others. We are only once for this planet and there are things that are more important than money.

drc

Cannon_Fodder wrote: »

If all of the prudent, debt-free, taxpaying people were to leave...

?

I wonder about this too? Perhaps the government would make it a criminal offense to leave the UK if you have a healthy bank balance and no debts:rotfl:

lostinrates

Kez100 wrote: »

I doubt we will but I am very encouraging of languages with the children and ensuring they grow up knowing they have worldwide choices.

We thought about it a few years ago but I won't, not for any money, leave my parents without regular contact in person with their grandchildren. They don't have any others. We are only once for this planet and there are things that are more important than money.

I don't disagree, but this happens frequntly enough with domestic moves...e.g. grandkids and parnts in SE with two sets of in laws into different places.

Cannon_Fodder

"I wonder about this too? Perhaps the government would make it a criminal offense to leave the UK if you have a healthy bank balance and no debts..."



!!!!!!, don't give the NuLab spies any ideas...!

PasturesNew

I've never been abroad.

Most countries wouldn't allow me in to work (age-related, no sought-after skills).

Most countries aren't English-speaking and they'd all have different laws it'd be easy to fall foul of so it'd be easy to not have a clue what was going on, how to get things sorted, what was available etc.

If I met Mr You'll Do and he wanted to drag me somewhere hot and sort of English and he had a good skill (wasn't delusional), then I'd follow him wherever just to do it. But as a nervous, untravelled, older, single, female, completely clueless and vulnerable: nope.

Davesnave

neas wrote: »

i always thought that.. england is pretty cold normally... if global warming causes rises things will be bad but not as bad as places that are typically warm already - Australia, florida etc.

Not necessarily. A severe melt of the Artic ice might disrupt the North Atlantic Drift (Gulf Stream), giving us very different winters. Don't forget that Moscow & Glasgow are more or less the same distance from the N Pole.

Getting on a bit now though, so I'll take my chances here, I think.

ad9898_3

Davesnave wrote: »

Not necessarily. A severe melt of the Artic ice might disrupt the North Atlantic Drift (Gulf Stream), giving us very different winters. Don't forget that Moscow & Glasgow are more or less the same distance from the N Pole.

'Giving us different winters', I like your understatement, if the Gulf Stream stopped, we would have winter permanently, it could possibly bring on another ice age, ironic in the face of global warming.

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

I've never been abroad. Would you like to? I know you have rasons to not, but do you have rason to aswell?

Most countries wouldn't allow me in to work (age-related, no sought-after skills). EU? You are as entitled as anyon to work anywhere within it.

Most countries aren't English-speaking and they'd all have different laws it'd be easy to fall foul of so it'd be easy to not have a clue what was going on, how to get things sorted, what was available etc. You could read the laws :rolleyes: there are books on moving to various countries to help with this sort of thing. In fat, I don't wondr with your extremely enhanced ideas of rules you might not have an actual advantage in that rspect (although I guess countered by dealing with change). It is also rgreatably easy to live in many places without learning lots of local language. Many employer atively look for native english speakers, eg, DH.s Milan employer prefered people with English as a first language for office managers. (a job I imagine you could do extremely well )

If I met Mr You'll Do and he wanted to drag me somewhere hot and sort of English and he had a good skill (wasn't delusional), then I'd follow him wherever just to do it. But as a nervous, untravelled, older, single, female, completely clueless and vulnerable: nope.

You'd be ok. Ther is lots of help. If it happens yell, we'll all help teach you the rules and find info you need

Kez100

lostinrates wrote: »

I don't disagree, but this happens frequntly enough with domestic moves...e.g. grandkids and parnts in SE with two sets of in laws into different places.

It's not that it can't be done just I won't do it but I'd fully appreciate others might want too. The reason I know I won't is because we considered it in the late 1990's and that was the very reason we didn't.

We don't live close actually. They don't have daily contact (apart from daughter sending Nan taxt messages but she can do that anywhere) but they do have regular contact in relatively big doses and are both very close to my parents. To be in Aus or NZ, or even Canada (which would probably be our choices) - all too far away for people on a very limited income.