should a 17 year old pay tax

gerad_way

My daughter is 17 and has 2 part-time jobs. One is 6 hours a week the other is usually 4 hours a week. Her first job which she has had for the last 12 months does not take tax from her however her second job which she has had for 3 months taxes her at basic rate. It's hardly worth her doing the job. We have informed the tax office that she ia a fulltime student and asked why she is paying tax but they just keep giving her a phone number to contact and then she spends ages trying to get through. ( not been successful yet)
Can anybody advise us as to wether she should be paying tax at all and if not how does she get the money back??????
Thanks:D

Lokolo

Yes 2 jobs mean the second job will be on BR tax code. (as the first job takes the personal allowance)

However she can claim it back at the end of the tax year with P60s as long as she doesn't earn over her personal allowance.

gerad_way

Thanks for your reply.
Both her jobs together still don't take up all her personal allowance for the tax year, Does this make any difference.

Lokolo

gerad_way wrote: »

Thanks for your reply.
Both her jobs together still don't take up all her personal allowance for the tax year, Does this make any difference.

Nope! Lame I know but theres no contact between the 2 jobs so theres no way of knowing that (and don't try it won't work lol), thats just how the system works unfortunately.

Think of it as an Easter bonus, thats what I do

CLAPTON

gerad_way wrote: »

Thanks for your reply.
Both her jobs together still don't take up all her personal allowance for the tax year, Does this make any difference.

yes, she can ask the HMRC to divide her personal allowance between the two jobs and hence pay no tax on either job.

Lokolo

CLAPTON wrote: »

yes, she can ask the HMRC to divide her personal allowance between the two jobs and hence pay no tax on either job.

I didn't think you could do that!

jem16

gerad_way wrote: »

We have informed the tax office that she ia a fulltime student and asked why she is paying tax but they just keep giving her a phone number to contact and then she spends ages trying to get through. ( not been successful yet)

As Clapton says the best way is to split the allowance between the two jobs.

However it is worth noting that being a full time student does not exempt anyone from paying tax. Everyone, including children, has a personal tax-free allowance. If you earn over this you pay tax no matter what your circumstances are.

trevormax

Lokolo wrote: »

I didn't think you could do that!

You can, all she will need to do is find out which area is her main jobs tax office, phone them and ask them to split her allowance.

She will need:
her national insurance number
her main jobs employer ref number - this will be on her pay slip and would look something like 123/a456yz
her second jobs employer ref number
her gross earnings from her main job before tax and NI is deducted.

Use the first 3 numbers of her main jobs employer ref number to find out which tax office deals with it (this link is for a HMRC site which will tell you which office deal with it http://search2.hmrc.gov.uk/kbroker/hmrc/locator/locator.jsp?type=1 ).
Phone them and tell them she would like to split her allowance.
Tell them her gross income for her main job and ask for the remainder to be set against her second job.
Give them the second jobs employer ref number (they might have it, they might not)

Haypresto. As long as both jobs dont use all of her allowance, she should not have to pay tax and could get a tax rebate from her second employer for all the tax they have already deducted depending on how fast the codes are issued and opperated. Simple.

Kavanne

jem16 wrote: »

As Clapton says the best way is to split the allowance between the two jobs.

However it is worth noting that being a full time student does not exempt anyone from paying tax. Everyone, including children, has a personal tax-free allowance. If you earn over this you pay tax no matter what your circumstances are.

I thought it was only over 16s?

Lokolo

Kavanne wrote: »

I thought it was only over 16s?

Nope. Under 16's are only allowed to work a limited number of hours a week, but a 14 year old one £500 an hour working 5 hours a week will still have to pay tax.

CLAPTON

Kavanne wrote: »

I thought it was only over 16s?

earnings aren't really the issue here

anybody from zero years to 65 will pay tax if their relevant income is greater than £6,035 this tax year....

so a child might have savings interest (from non parent gifts or inheritance) or a dependant's pension (say if their parent had died) plus of course any actual earning.