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Ashropshirelady wrote: »

Doesn't surprise me at all. It is under the guise of COMMON PURPOSE and is MIND CONTROL.

It's likely that you've never heard of an organisation called Common Purpose, unless that is you are a 'leader' or aspire to be one. People urgently need to be aware of what it is doing.

It began in the UK in 1988, where it has some 45 offices, but has now taken its sun symbol logo into many countries as Common Purpose International.
These include France, Germany, Ghana, Hungary, India, Ireland, Netherlands, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and Turkey.

It is also moving in on the United States. This is its stated goal: 'Common Purpose aims to improve the way society works by expanding the vision, decision making ability and influence of all kinds of leaders.
The organisation runs a variety of educational programmes for leaders of all ages, backgrounds and sectors, in order to provide them with the inspiration, information and opportunities they need to change the world.'

Common Purpose is Treason - Brian Gerish
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XGEgHZh21Eo&feature=related

I've just had a quick Google of Common Purpose and frankly I don't see what is dangerous or treasonous about them. Seems like an (expensive) Leadership Development organisation to me. There's certainly a social agenda there a well but I don't see it as harmful unless I'm missing something.

Mind you. the anti-Common Purpose sites are another thing all together. Seem like a collection of a anti-Europe, lefties-under-the beds type conspiracy theorists.

modeca

TorrestheGreat wrote: »

There are thousands of people who will tell you that voodoo works, that parayer works, that healing crystals work, too. Anecdotal evidence isnt worth a carrot so dont bother wasting our time with you boasts about NLP

Thanks for your informed comments Mr Great. I wouldn't class myself as a fan of New Age practices. However, experience in life has taught me to keep an open mind rather than dismiss anything that falls outside of your normal realm of understanding.

I am a die hard sceptic and a rationalist thinker. I have also studied many areas including NLP, Positive psychology and Gestalt therapy. As a scientist I know the value of empirical eveidence and peer-reviewed research. I also know that there are countless inconsistencies in the physical world that we can't explain (anyone want to offer me a concise explantion of wave/ particle duality?) Therefore a lack of academic research is not an indicator of fallacy to me.

NLP has been described as a 'technology' for change. When you learn about actual NLP techniques and methods, you discover just how simple and effective they can be. These mostly involve what most people would understand as 'visualisation' exercises, raising awareness of your own sensory acuity, belief systems and values.

The basic idea is that you can 'reprogram' your brain to get rid of negative thought/ behaviour processes in order to lead a happier, more effective life. The techniques are fast, non-intrusive (no need to confess your early sexual traumas or that you fancied your mother) and very easy to put into practise.

There's nothing particularly sinister about NLP. Sure, there are unscrupulous people using NLP in negative ways. But how does this differ from any other new technology - the printing press, the internet etc. 'Qualified' surgeons were performing frontal lobotomies on unwilling patients for years before we understood the irreversible danger this caused.

NLP is about an attitude, a curiosity about life, learning and self improvement. Give it a go if your are interested, if it's not your bag, try something else!

skintsue

"Nesh" It has different meanings in St Helens or Wigan.
In one town it was - scared, cowardly, big girl's blouse, chicken,
in the other it meant extremely cold, nippy, inclement weather. so for example "It were so nesh last night he wuz nesh going out".

jumblejack

TorrestheGreat wrote: »

Ok so you can reprogram your brain? The Nobel prize beckons.
Look up the word 'neuroscience', learn a bit of 'neuroscience', realise why real scientists laugh at you- problem solved

Someone got out of the wrong side of the bed, hmm?

MediSin

skintsue wrote: »

"Nesh" It has different meanings in St Helens or Wigan.
In one town it was - scared, cowardly, big girl's blouse, chicken,
in the other it meant extremely cold, nippy, inclement weather. so for example "It were so nesh last night he wuz nesh going out".

Yep, depends who you ask. I moved to Walsall from London 9 years ago and still have no idea what they're taking about most of the time! I've had 'nesh' explained as cold, or that feeling when you go from a really cold place to a warm place, and vice versa. I think they're making up as they go along! :rotfl: