low level shower trays

calleyw

andrew-b wrote: »

They should have consulted you before going ahead with a high level installation. Maybe the installer isn't entirely to blame in that you should have been more stringent in your requirements and expressly stated you wanted a low-level installation even if it meant extra cost to surmount problems.

You and your OH shouldn't have to face this problem...i'm sure you have enough other things to worry about!

There are plenty of us here who will try and offer our support and advice. Good luck and let us know what happens.

Andy

Thanks Andy for understanding.

When they quoted knew my husband was disabled from the start that is why we wanted a low level shower tray as close to the floor as possible. As otherwise why would I have asked for

As I said maybe we are to blame I don't know. But I know that I ain't paying thousands of pounds for something that is not fit for my husbands purpose.

I don't know what is happening next. have to wait and see.

Yours

Calley

DirectDebacle

calleyw wrote: »

they claim they can't do that as I have half height and width extension below my bathroom.

My soil stack is on the other side of the room.

Would it be possible to run the waste along the ceiling/wall of the extension and then through the wall to the soil stack? The pipe could be boxed in as if it were a lintel. It might not look too bad and would ensure the tray could be fitted at floor level.

I did this with a Saniflo installation although this was in 22mm pipe not 40mm and the soil stack was internal.

calleyw

DirectDebacle wrote: »

Would it be possible to run the waste along the ceiling/wall of the extension and then through the wall to the soil stack? The pipe could be boxed in as if it were a lintel. It might not look too bad and would ensure the tray could be fitted at floor level.

I did this with a Saniflo installation although this was in 22mm pipe not 40mm and the soil stack was internal.

That is what they are talking about now and want to charge me an extra 1K :mad: for it.

I wish I had never bothered now today as turned in to a nightmare for other reason beyonds this.

Yours

Calley

DirectDebacle

That is outrageous for a days work at the most and virtually no materials save some battening plywood/plasterboard ( they should have allowed for the trap, waste and soil stack connections in the original quote)

I do hope you have not paid for it all up front. If you have paid for materials and they have all been delivered I would pack them off the job and request an invoice for work up to date. Decide if that is reasonable or not when you receive it. I would then start asking local tradesmen for quotes to finish the job.

So sorry you are having a bad day and that it picks up for you.

calleyw

DirectDebacle wrote: »

That is outrageous for a days work at the most and virtually no materials save some battening plywood/plasterboard ( they should have allowed for the trap, waste and soil stack connections in the original quote)

I do hope you have not paid for it all up front. If you have paid for materials and they have all been delivered I would pack them off the job and request an invoice for work up to date. Decide if that is reasonable or not when you receive it. I would then start asking local tradesmen for quotes to finish the job.

So sorry you are having a bad day and that it picks up for you.

Thanks I hope it gets better for me too.

They are saying about going in to the roof space and putting in a hatch to gain access.

Yours


Calley

mikey72

If they cannot give a reasonable job get a second opinion and a quote from another company. You will be able to work out a retention to get the job done properly if it comes to it.
Without knowing the layout it's very hard to guess, but I can't believe they can't run a waste without being 6 inches above the floor. What they may have done is the easiest way, rather than a possible way that suits you better.

calleyw

We seem to have come to an agreement that is going to cost an extra £300.

They are going to go in the through the extension roof space and down in to the extension. Then run the pipe across the ceiling in to the soil pipe in the down stairs loo. Then box the whole lot in.

The other option was to spend another £600 on top of what we are spending. To put the pipe all the away along in to the extension roof space. I personally would have worried about the pipe freezing in the roof space.

I don't think they liked being pulled up like this. But for good sake it was not my problem they did not survey it properly. They knew the requirements from the start. It has to be as low as possible. I expected 2 to 3 inches tall but not 6 and half.

And I am not even going to start on about the flooring people. As we will be here all day long :rotfl:

I really do wish I had not really started this now Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Yours


Calley

andrew-b

That's not so bad but still alot considering it sounds pretty much just the cost of labour. If they agreed originally to keep the shower tray as low as possible surely it was their mistake not to keep to that so why should you have to pay for it? I suppose at least your getting somewhere towards finding a solution - whether their charges for extra work is reasonable i'm not convinced though.

Do make sure you understand their plans fully and are happy with them before you let them continue. They've tried fobbing you off once already with the easy option of raising the shower tray so try and keep an eye on what they are upto and tell them they must consult you if they change their plans again.

If the waste pipe is passing through a cold loft space then you are right to be concerned about it freezing so insist they insulate it!

If you have a digital camera or camera on your mobile phone then take some pictures and post them here so we can see if the proposed solution is viable or if there is a better alternative.

I suspect it's quite a strained relationship with the tradesmen at the moment and you probably don't trust them much now...i know from experience how stressful it can get when the trust is gone so i don't envy you one bit! Don't be afraid to bail out and kick them off the job if your not happy (one of my biggest regrets is that i didn't kick out our kitchen fitters on day 1 rather than nearly have a nervous breakdown and weeks of problems!).

Andy

andyhop

most folk i quote for want the cheapest job possible, hence why in depth surveys are not carried out, you can not blame the fitters for fitting the tray at the height that there did if that was the only possible route within resonable time/cost. Any raised trays unless fitted wit legs should always sit on a well supported base and anything less than 3 by timber would not be enough.....if a tray bends it cracks

if i was to survey the job correctly it would take hours to quote with some damage(caused by inspection) would have to be done......no 2 houses are the same. Its like one of the last jobs i did the tiles pulled the bonding plaster straight of the wall when we stripped a bathroom for a refit, customer stated that i did not survey the job correctly?