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Son broke Mum in Law's ornament- help please?

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  • mrcow
    mrcow Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    Zazen999 wrote: »
    Sigh...I love my nieces running riot around here - it's great fun. You keep your kids sitting on their hands in the corner all you like

    I've never heard so much old rot before!

    My kids are normal. Normal children who play normally. They also have respect for others' property. As most normal kids do.

    If your nieces came round to mine and started running around, teasing each other, breaking things and disobeying their parents, then they wouldn't get invited back here......or to most people's houses come to that.

    As a parent, it is your responsibility to teach your children how to behave properly. Can you not understand that?

    If you can't be bothered to even do that, then why have them in the first place? I wouldn't bring up a dog like that, let alone children!
    "One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
    Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."
  • pulliptears
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    I do agree to some extent that children should be impeccably well behaved when visiting but I think it depends on the attitude of the person they are visiting. Always best to err on the side of caution! on the flip side I have some agreement with Zazen in the fact that when my 2 were small we would run riot (me included).
    Riotous games of hide and seek, playfights and general rough and tumble were the usual. I had no ornaments, I moved them. The sound of their laughter was of much more appeal to me than bits of porcelain tat.
    However, this was all done in my home. When visiting my Mum, they were angelic, when visiting Mum in Law, chaos ensued again because she held similar views to me!
  • Zazen999
    Zazen999 Posts: 6,183 Forumite
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    mrcow wrote: »
    I've never heard so much old rot before!

    My kids are normal. Normal children who play normally. They also have respect for others' property. As most normal kids do.

    If your nieces came round to mine and started running around, teasing each other, breaking things and disobeying their parents, then they wouldn't get invited back here......or to most people's houses come to that.

    As a parent, it is your responsibility to teach your children how to behave properly. Can you not understand that?

    If you can't be bothered to even do that, then why have them in the first place? I wouldn't bring up a dog like that, let alone children!

    Give it a rest luv.

    P.S. Aunties aren't nieces' parents - can you not understand that?
  • mgardner
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    InDebted2U wrote: »
    Does she have contents insurance? It ought to be covered.

    Unfortunately accidents happen and are bound to happen where small children and ornaments are concerned. Things of sentimental value are best out of reach/sight when kids visit, if at all possible. Other than apologising and offering to replace item if not covered by insurance (on the understanding that such items will be placed somewhere safe on future visits), then there isn't much else you can do.

    Might also be a good idea for all concerned to try to look on the bright side - at least it was just an ornament that got damaged and not a small person.

    Exactly my view I am a MIL but first and formost I consider myself a Grandmother and my first and only consideration would have been relief
    that the little one, after all only 4, had not hurt himself. I would have considered it entirely my own fault for having a unstable unit and ornaments that were a risk to little ones.

    Finally I would be extremely embarrased at the distress this has caused you and would not dream of expecting a replacement. Perhaps your MIL feels the same way, have you asked her?
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  • mrcow
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    Zazen999 wrote: »
    Give it a rest luv.

    P.S. Aunties aren't nieces' parents - can you not understand that?

    Is that really the best you can do? If so then why did you bother even pressing the "reply" button?

    Trying to imply that I don't understand what an Aunt is pretty stupid. I was refering to your nieces' parents and you as well, if you ever choose to become a parent in the future.

    If you do, I hope you've matured a little by then? If not, your kids will have my sympathies.
    "One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
    Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."
  • Zazen999
    Zazen999 Posts: 6,183 Forumite
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    mrcow wrote: »
    Is that really the best you can do? If so then why did you bother even pressing the "reply" button?

    Trying to imply that I don't understand what an Aunt is pretty stupid. I was refering to your nieces' parents and you as well, if you ever choose to become a parent in the future.

    If you do, I hope you've matured a little by then? If not, your kids will have my sympathies.

    My nieces' parents are fine, thanks. As I said, my nieces have never broken anything and probably won't. The point is that IF they did, my main concern would be their welfare long before any trinkets.

    I'd still rather a load of fun in the house than any kids sitting there scared to move. Love live boisterous kids.
  • mrcow
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    Zazen999 wrote: »

    I'd still rather a load of fun in the house than any kids sitting there scared to move. Love live boisterous kids.

    It's not a question of being boisterous or not. I've got three children.Do you really think that I don't live in housefilled with toys, playing and noise? My children never stop playing. They're not "scared to move" as you put it. Even the suggestion is ridiculous. But what they do know is how to behave acceptably (a) in public places (b) around other people's houses.
    "One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
    Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."
  • Zazen999
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    mrcow wrote: »
    It's not a question of being boisterous or not. I've got three children.Do you really think that I don't live in housefilled with toys, playing and noise? My children never stop playing. They're not "scared to move" as you put it. Even the suggestion is ridiculous. But what they do know is how to behave acceptably (a) in public places (b) around other people's houses.

    Good for you.

    As I've said, my nieces have never broken anything...but if they did I'd move on with my life. What's the problem? :confused:
  • mrcow wrote: »
    It's not a question of being boisterous or not. I've got three children.Do you really think that I don't live in housefilled with toys, playing and noise? My children never stop playing. They're not "scared to move" as you put it. Even the suggestion is ridiculous. But what they do know is how to behave acceptably (a) in public places (b) around other people's houses.

    'ere av a medal, innit.

    If you've got children or grandchildren you can't expect to have bits of crap lying about and not get them broken or messed with.

    What kind of grandparent or parent leaves things that are worth thousands of pounds lying about and then has four year olds running about amongst it?

    If my children's grandparents did that I just wouldn't take them there.

    And I certainly wouldn't be contemplating replacing something that my mother-in-law bought off the back of a lorry. People who buy things that have been burgled are as much scum as the people who burgle it in the first place.
  • mrcow
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    Zazen999 wrote: »
    Good for you.

    As I've said, my nieces have never broken anything...but if they did I'd move on with my life. What's the problem? :confused:

    The problem was your response to this remark:
    When did we become a nation that believed that it is alright to break people's possessions and then blame the owner for not putting them in a 'safe' position and make no attempt to replace the broken item?

    Which you quoted basically saying that it is fine to blame the householder for not child proofing a house "because it's kids". Which it clearly isn't fine to do!

    Unless you're back tracking of course?
    "One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
    Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."
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