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geordie_joe

moonrakerz wrote: »

It still belongs to someone, therefore taking it without the owner's permission is theft.

No, the definition of theft is A person is guilty of theft if: he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it. The owner has hired a skip and put the item in it, therefore they have clearly indicated that they no longer want to own the item and have taken steps to permanently deprive them selves of it. You can't be prosecuted for "permanently depriving" when the owner has already done that them selves! Skip hire companies don't own the items either, they make it very clear that they don't own and are not responsible for anything in their skips. They can't check the contents, so there could be anything in them.

Purple_Sparkles

If you take something from a skip without the owners permission it is theft as they legally own the item. Do what I do, just knock the door and ask if you can have whatever it is.... always works for me and nobody can say I've stolen it then. Plus a lot of times they have asked if I'd like other stuff that they are going to get rid of that's not yet in the skip, win/win situation.

Anyway I think what the guy is trying to do is great and I'll follow his story too, I wish him good luck.

Caterina

geordie_joe wrote: »

There was a series on TV a couple of years ago, about living for free, or at least kitting a house out for free. This program claimed it was not against the law to take from skips, or put stuff in in people's skips for that matter.

I would like to know which is right, one way or another.

I have had skips and never had a problem if people picked stuff out of them (in fact I would put any usable stuff really visible for people to help themselves). The REAL thieves are the one who throw their rubbish and rubble on other people's skips - we had one last summer and within days it was filled overnight with someone else's rubble, the B*ST*RDS!:mad:

Caterina

mgardner

Caterina wrote: »

I have had skips and never had a problem if people picked stuff out of them (in fact I would put any usable stuff really visible for people to help themselves). The REAL thieves are the one who throw their rubbish and rubble on other people's skips - we had one last summer and within days it was filled overnight with someone else's rubble, the B*ST*RDS!:mad:

Caterina

Absolutely agree, Several of neighbours have had skips and put a notice help yourself on it, to my mind it is just not acceptable to put your rubbish in a skip paid for by someone else.

Suzy_M

I have a real problem with people taking stuff out of skips.

Every time I carefully plan how big a skip is needed and I carefully fill it to make optimum use of the space then some rotten b****rs come along and takes stuff out.

Last time I used Hippo bags I very carefully squeezed everything in to two bags on the Friday, by the time I phoned to have them collected on the Monday I'd been left with two bags half full.

Next time I need a skip I'm just going to dump everything on the drive, advertise a skip dive in the local free-ads then order a skip after everyone's had their pick!

geordie_joe

Suzy_M wrote: »

Next time I need a skip I'm just going to dump everything on the drive, advertise a skip dive in the local free-ads then order a skip after everyone's had their pick!

In Australia they do that. One day per month they put their rubbish, unwanted but usable items, out for anyone to take away. it's called Pavement Shopping.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

geordie_joe wrote: »

In Australia they do that. One day per month they put their rubbish, unwanted but usable items, out for anyone to take away. it's called Pavement Shopping.

now that sounds like a fab idea....wonder if it would catch on over hear...

suziewuzie

geordie_joe wrote: »

In Australia they do that. One day per month they put their rubbish, unwanted but usable items, out for anyone to take away. it's called Pavement Shopping.

This is such a cool idea - how can we get it to catch on over here?

miss_corerupted

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

as for collecting wood from woods and forests... in alot of places.. the forestry commission will allow you to take the smaller thinings... etc.. but there are so many broken pallets etc around, and garden/ tree workers who as odd..and were saying wahts the point.... the point was we now look to those people for inspiration and ideas...

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With the Forestry i would check as i know hwere i work we don't allow it.

Spent ages making habitat piles and leaving standing dead wood for SSSI and someone comes along and takes it. very annoying

COOLTRIKERCHICK

miss_corerupted wrote: »

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

as for collecting wood from woods and forests... in alot of places.. the forestry commission will allow you to take the smaller thinings... etc.. but there are so many broken pallets etc around, and garden/ tree workers who as odd..and were saying wahts the point.... the point was we now look to those people for inspiration and ideas...

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With the Forestry i would check as i know hwere i work we don't allow it.

Spent ages making habitat piles and leaving standing dead wood for SSSI and someone comes along and takes it. very annoying

i know around here they used to allow you to take certain ones, they were thinning out etc...

but today my youngest told he he seen it on the news you can not do this anymore.. maybe because of the price of fuel going up etc... more and more people are now burning wood it got too much...

I can see where you are coming from as you got to keep the forest eco system in flow so to speak...