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amistupid

harrowing wrote: »

I believe rape carries a min 7 year tariff, but do please prove me wrong...a wise man always admits to his mistakes.

http://www.sentencing-guidelines.gov.uk/docs/rape.pdf

7. As can be seen from the sentencing statistics summarized at Annex A to this
paper, the average sentence for an adult offender sentenced to immediate custody for
rape in 2000 was 7 years 4 months (7 years 6 months on a not guilty plea and 6 years 10
months on a guilty plea). The majority of sentences (57%) fell within the range 5-10
years, but 25% of offenders received sentences of under 5 years, and 17% were
sentenced to more than 10 years (including 10% whose sentence was life imprisonment).

harrowing_3

indeed, awful. probably as it wasn't actually rape the judge applied his total lack-of-common-sense in passing sentence

st

the whole justice system in this country is crazy and thanks to this goverment we have more criminal offences then ever and a large percentage for minor stupid offences not forgetting the hard pressed motorist.

Interesting did you see the live coverage on news 24 of the protests outside the israelli embassy yesterday PC Plod did nothing yet when we had the Countryside Alliance protest they took a different approach and of course us English are not allowed to protest e.g fuel protestors etc and now every fire engine has to have 1 female fireperson due to new diversity regulations what a place this is

harrowing_3

amistupid wrote: »

http://www.sentencing-guidelines.gov.uk/docs/rape.pdf

7. As can be seen from the sentencing statistics summarized at Annex A to this
paper, the average sentence for an adult offender sentenced to immediate custody for
rape in 2000 was 7 years 4 months (7 years 6 months on a not guilty plea and 6 years 10
months on a guilty plea). The majority of sentences (57%) fell within the range 5-10
years, but 25% of offenders received sentences of under 5 years, and 17% were

sentenced to more than 10 years (including 10% whose sentence was life imprisonment).

Good, int he? So I was nearly correct....

Not something I'd advise reading over lunch, but yes the sentencing guidelines later on say:-

The Billam guidelines establish four starting points for a rape committed by an
adult, after a contested trial:

5 years’ imprisonment for an offence with no aggravating or mitigating features;

8 years’ imprisonment, for cases where certain specified aggravating features are
present;

15 years plus for a defendant who has carried out a campaign of rape;

life imprisonment, which is said to be ‘not inappropriate’ where the offender’s
behaviour ‘has manifested perverted or psychopathic tendencies or gross
personality disorder, and where he is likely, if at large, to remain a danger to

women for an indefinite time’.

amistupid

Unfortunately no minimum sentence for rape. Read this unbelievable
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-464150/Judges-mercy-man-raped-girl-ten.html

harrowing_3

st, may I introduce you to.....what would you take "Gordon Brown's memoirs"?

harrowing_3

amistupid wrote: »

Unfortunately no minimum sentence for rape. Read this unbelievable
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-464150/Judges-mercy-man-raped-girl-ten.html

Blast! Seems like judges are free to ignore guidelines

st

amistupid wrote: »

Unfortunately no minimum sentence for rape. Read this unbelievable
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-464150/Judges-mercy-man-raped-girl-ten.html

now you see what is going on and it was a Tory MP whom rasied the question quite rightly --- and talking of protests this was a peaceful "english" protest coach -:mad:

A recent case (R (Laporte) v Chief Constable of Gloucestershire Constabulary) has helped to clarify when and how the police may exercise their powers in relation to breaches of the peaces in the context of protests. In this case, police officers stopped a coach that was carrying demonstrators and traveling to a demonstration from London. The officers concluded that some (although not necessarily all) of the passengers intended to cause a breach of the peace and ordered the passengers to return to London. The coach was escorted back to London and the passengers were prevented from leaving the coaches until they had reached London (a journey of 2 ½ hours). The Court of Appeal held that the police might have been entitled to stop the protesters and to prevent them from continuing to the demonstration if they had reasonable grounds for believing that this was necessary to prevent an imminent breach of the peace. However, they were not entitled to detain the protestors in the coach and to force the coach back to London. This was a disproportionate interference with the protesters' right to liberty.

harrowing_3

blimey, 60 wpm?

st

some more nu lab guff .............

"
Last year the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) launched 100 inquiries compared with 31 in 2004 and the National Audit Office said the increase was likely because of the Human Rights Act.
Earlier this month, bosses at the Serious Organised Crime Agency (Soca) warned Britain's most prolific criminal masterminds cannot be named publicly by police because it could infringe their human rights.
They were "deeply frustrated'' after lawyers advised them not to name 39 convicted criminals because it would breach the convicts' right to a family and private life and could amount to an "unfair'' punishment. "