Bad leadership and management

ahai1

I have been involved with a project to raise money. What I have found out is that some of the people invloved in it have ideas but never carry them out as they feel it is too much work and are hung up on certain things. We were supposed to have a fund raising drive sometime ago but people have never got around to it and they are not willing to spend the time required.

GiveItBack

this can happen. you need the right kind of team for things to work right....

fengirl_2

I see this all the time...and then they will complain to the council or someone when the organisation has to close due to lack of funding!

ahai1

I know they blame the local authorities and let anyone on the management committee and the funny thing is they think it requires little work and the money falls from the sky or something.

The point is those people have no idea. I was talking to a manager who started funding forms but never got around to finishing them.

This credit crunch will get rid of some of them.

One of my favourites is someone bullying a commissioning manager. She got the money but the new one I think told her where to get off.

Ianna

That's life I'm afraid. I've worked in a lot of places like that and sadly I've met a lot of volunteers like that. You need to work hard and try to achieve things but some people just don't get that and expect it to fall in their lap.

ahai1

The thing is that most of them are in local community organisation where the systems are not in place to ensure they are doing a good job and to some of them it is like their personal pet project. They mean will but don't do the hard work or understand anything or are willing to learn anything.

There are some good local community organisations but most of them are bad from the beginning as some people set them with an idea and don't bother to see if there is any need for it or they set them up due to their own views.

I am wondering do most of them go under?

I have heard there were some management disputes in some of them.

silkcutblue

Speak to whoever manages you and raise the points in your 1:1 or supervision.

I'll take the other side here because I am involved in a lot of fund raising and I am a manager.

Sometimes what you want and what an organisation can do are two seperate things. for example, I would like my organisation to be involved in a lot more workshops to raise awareness of the issues we stand for. however, we only have one person who does workshops and if he is off doing those then no-one goes for grants.

Money and longevity Vs raising awareness.

Both important. Not enough people. Fact of life and small organisations. My staff were grumbling about less workshops and they had to shut up last week when I spelled it out, "no grant applications mean you all lose your jobs in Feb."

The point I am trying to get across is that often the obvious thing is not being done for reasons that you are just not aware of. That's why trustees and chairs of the board deal with those things, not us little guys.

Anyway, just a differing POV.

GiveItBack

good points silkcutblue.

Similarly there are companies that are as badly run, in the end some people just don't know or have the ability to do the hard work to acheive what they'd like

ahai1

I know I had dealings with some of those companies and will not be going back again. The thing is that the management committee and everyone has got plans and they fail to carry out the basics. They were talking about setting up a fund raising committee of members and guess what that has never been heard of.

The problems are even worse they were supposed to give out tasks to people. The tasks never materialist.