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Lokolo

Oh I agree!

Theres a point where people should get off their ****'s (like myself, too lazy at uni, will get a job in Jan! kick myself up the backside) compared to those that can't actually work.

Blah99

loaner wrote: »

It's called shoring up your vote. Bribery and redistribution has worked for the last 3 elections, the next one could be a bit more tricky.

Hey, Alastair Darling and Gordon Brown just proved today that they believe a sizeable portion of the UK are too stupid to understand what they're doing, so they thought they'd go ahead and do it again in the next budget. If Labour are voted back into power in the next election I will officially be too embarrassed to remain in this country any longer.

VAT drop - awesome! Gateway savers - awesome! VED postponement - awesome!

Oh, hold on. 0.5% on NI, and all the advantageous measures are temporary whilst the tax increases are permanent. Hmm. Never mind lads, I'm sure Carol Vorderman and Ocean Finance will bail us out!

gelato_cat

I'm hoping that the Govt sees people saving £hundreds and cuts their benefits as they're obviously being paid too much...

Suze

Blah99 wrote: »

Yet another crazy decision by the Government. People on those benefits are already paid by the state out of our taxes, so let's encourage them to put the money right back into the bank by giving them even more money paid for by even more taxes! Woohoo!

I swear the people who come up with these stupid ideas don't live in the real world...

LucyTheDwarf

Lokolo wrote: »

Oh I agree!

Theres a point where people should get off their ****'s (like myself, too lazy at uni, will get a job in Jan! kick myself up the backside) compared to those that can't actually work.

As someone at university, I am sure you are not going through all this to just sit on your backside for the rest of your life! You will become a resentful working taxpayer like the rest of us!

One of my neighbours was complaining loudly this morning about benefits being cut for those with children over the age of 12 (I couldn't be bothered to listen to either her or the news - REALLY bad night, but I think she was talking about job seekers allowance). Her argument was that she shouldn't have to work, and she wanted to be there for her children when they got home from school/college. Her children are 17 ish and 20 ish... she has no intention of working, and I'm confident her little darlings don't need her to be home when they get there. (Let's face it, the 17 year old doesn't come home before nightfall anyway, as she's with the boyfriend drinking on street corners!).

I feel so angry about people!!!

gelato_cat

I don't waste the energy or mental capacity. At least there won't be a state pension by the time she retires

Suze

LucyTheDwarf wrote: »

One of my neighbours was complaining loudly this morning about benefits being cut for those with children over the age of 12 (I couldn't be bothered to listen to either her or the news - REALLY bad night, but I think she was talking about job seekers allowance). Her argument was that she shouldn't have to work, and she wanted to be there for her children when they got home from school/college. Her children are 17 ish and 20 ish... she has no intention of working, and I'm confident her little darlings don't need her to be home when they get there. (Let's face it, the 17 year old doesn't come home before nightfall anyway, as she's with the boyfriend drinking on street corners!).

I feel so angry about people!!!

Lokolo

Wow she should have come to our house when my mum was single and I was going to school.

My mum would go to work (funnily enough, she got a job in a school so she could be home in holidays, weekends and after school! Wow, who would have thought that was a solution?) before me and my brother get up, at the time we were in primary school. She would leave the door unlocked. My 2 mates who lived down the road would come in and watch TV at 7.45 or whatever until me and my brother got ready for school, we then left on our own accord when mum had gone to work. We were 9/10....

Then secondary school my mum went to work elsewhere, better paid job and everything and yeh its nice to see mum in holidays and weekends but it doesn't mean she doesn't have to work!

Not working a solution? Sheesh sort your life out! :rotfl:

LucyTheDwarf

Heh, my mum did much the same, once my youngest sibling reached infant school age. Dinner lady, receptionist and playground supervisor first, then after 18 months worth of "helping mum" sessions she was offered a class assistant job. Brought money in, and she could still raise us all.

But even if she hadn't have worked in a school, I'm sure she would have found a few days a week, or just mornings or something in a supermarket, or on reception in the doctors... anything that would allow her the flexibility of bringing up her children and working! It's not rocket science.

Also - any 12 year old that needs their mother to be home all day, hasn't been brought up correctly. At 12 a child should be able to operate a telephone, in case of a real need to speak to their parents; be able to make themselves a sandwich, or locate a bag of crisps, in case of hunger; and be capable of walking/cycling/busing to school! I think the govt is right to restrict benefits to these parents who are choosing not to work!

SeanW

I rarely except the government to do anything to benefit your average student or hard working majority.

gozomark wrote: »

normally yes, but right now, no - the economy needs people to send

I thought it was us, and the Americans in particular, spending what we didn't have that led to this situation anyway!

I could spend all my savings now which will please the government, then in 2 or 3 years get a 100% mortgage for a over priced house, then in 6 years get repossessed during the next "credit crunch" because of irresponsible attitutudes to spending, saving and borrowing.

pfpf

LucyTheDwarf wrote: »

My brother is on a low income (about £8800 I think), but he can hold his head up high as he works - which is more than can be said now for most of the cretins he endured in his school years. He wouldn't qualify for this scheme.

i am no expert but can your brother not claim WTC?

at £8800.00 combined with the minimum wage surely he qualifies for some WTC?

LucyTheDwarf

I looked into it for him a couple of months ago, and it appears he does not qualify. I only checked the entitledto website, and I have no idea how accurate/thorough this is.

His salary was just a guess, but from memory I think it was a little below 9k.

EDIT: Does age and personal circumstances come into it? He's 20, and living at home still.