!!!!!! - Clown to raise the top rate of tax to 45%

stephen163

mitchaa wrote: »

A quick google is not research, the information is rubbish. Just take a look at aviationjobsearch.com for a better picture.

I will not argue with you, i know what we are paid:rolleyes:

The roles are not for established engineers, they are for experienced engineers. I started my career at 16, i now have 9 yrs experience, believe me that is enough to get into these roles.

Oh and check the other 2 links, the only requirements are to have a B1 engineers license. Salary of £53k.

On the other point...

You calling me a liar? You are finding it hard to believe offshore ROV techs are earning £47k or just the fact a 21yr old secured this position:rolleyes:

Have you perhaps got a chip on your shoulder that the £1k per age year is as outdated as a rover 200?

As for my cousin and the ROV course, this is where he attended, you can phone up and ask how much typical starting salaries are...

http://www.theunderwatercentre.co.uk/rov.asp

I quoted an official home office document - certainly not a 'quick google search'. This showed the average salaries, or 'expected salaries' for this type of work. This is in line with the £1k/year expectation I suggested earlier.

Claims that you can expect to earn £2k/per year of age per year as a practising engineer are outrageous. Fine, if you want to go offshore and work on a rig, you might get to this kind of level pro-rata but this is the extra they have to pay you for the danger. And £500 a day is extremely optimistic for someone with minimal experience, aswell.

One of the jobs you posted required required several years MANAGEMENT experience as a prerequisite, the other was for a SENIOR/CHIEF ENGINEER (implying similarly years of high level experience) and the other was for a project engineer. I would expect these jobs to be done typically by engineers in their 40's and 50's with many years of experience in the field.

But if you've made it to that level at the age of 25, good luck to you!

Anyway, with this ROV technician thing your cousin is doing, all I am finding is salary ranges of £18k to 45k 'depending on experience'.

mitchaa

stephen163 wrote: »

I quoted an official home office document - certainly not a 'quick google search'. This showed the average salaries, or 'expected salaries' for this type of work. This is in line with the £1k/year expectation I suggested earlier.

Claims that you can expect to earn £2k/per year of age per year as a practising engineer are outrageous. Fine, if you want to go offshore and work on a rig, you might get to this kind of level pro-rata but this is the extra they have to pay you for the danger.

One of the jobs you posted required required several years MANAGEMENT experience as a prerequisite, the other was for a SENIOR/CHIEF ENGINEER (implying similarly years of high level experience) and the other was for a project engineer. I would expect these jobs to be done typically by engineers in their 40's and 50's with many years of experience in the field.

But if you've made it to that level at the age of 25, good luck to you!

Believe what you wish, but i know the industry inside out, here is another link for a basic licensed engineer..

How about this 1, basic licensed AC engineer at my place..

http://www.aviationjobsearch.com/employer.asp?employerid=134&vacID=140293

Contractors here are working 60hr wks. (£1920pw x 48 = £92k)

Kinda blows the £25k claimed out of the window, and you really think there would be such a difference for doing the same job Even if they were only working the usual 40hrx48 per pattern, that still works out at £61k.

These positions and the 1's i linked earlier are being filled by engineers similar aged to myself.

I wont provide any more linked advertised jobs for you, as im not going to argue black is white but yes i am correct in what i state, all the younger generation engineers that i work with and all those especially working in the offshore oil and gas industry are working to the £2k/per age year scenario.

You will be very surprised if you do some serious research into aviation and offshore oil and gas engineering.

Over and out

Jonbvn

mitchaa wrote: »

Perhaps you should pull your head out of your :rolleyes:
ar*e

I am a degree educated chartered engineer in the O&G business with 25 years experience gained across the world.

You are a licensed engineer = technician

I would suggest you kiss my ar*e and get me a coffee.

mitchaa

stephen163 wrote: »

Anyway, with this ROV technician thing your cousin is doing, all I am finding is salary ranges of £18k to 45k 'depending on experience'.

Seriously are you not supposed to be clever being a chartered engineer. The salary details are in the link provided:rolleyes:

Salaried upto £60k, many go on day rates for much much more


This is the kind of job you should be able to apply for with 5yrs experience in this role

http://www.matchtech.com/job/178309/

That is a £90k+ job 2wks on, 2wks off

mitchaa

Jonbvn wrote: »

I am a degree educated chartered engineer in the O&G business with 25 years experience gained across the world.

You are a licensed engineer = technician

I would suggest you kiss my ar*e and get me a coffee.

:rotfl:

Technician, ill take note of that the next time i sign an aircraft off safe to fly.

If you are in the O+G business, you'll realise the transport method you are required to get on to get there.

You're obviously still alive meaning those technicians you speak of done a good job;)

stephen163

mitchaa wrote: »

Seriously are you not supposed to be clever being a chartered engineer. The salary details are in the link provided:rolleyes:

Salaried upto £60k, many go on day rates for much much more


This is the kind of job you should be able to apply for with 5yrs experience in this role

http://www.matchtech.com/job/178309/

That is a £90k+ job

PROJECT ENGINEER!! Where I worked project engineers were men of great honour, experience and skill. They were very near the top of the engineering pyramid. If you get that job after 5 years routine experience there is something seriously wrong.

mitchaa

stephen163 wrote: »

PROJECT ENGINEER!! Where I worked project engineers were men of great honour, experience and skill. They were very near the top of the engineering pyramid.

Really, but you believe in the £1k/per age year scenario too so your beliefs are very outdated;)

Starting salaries for my place start at £47.5k with 1 helicopter type approval. You can potentially be as young as 23 to get this. (18+5yrs experience required for license)

You then work your way up the payscales.

Seriously you have a chip on your shoulder, i think you should perhaps move to Aberdeen and perhaps double your salary;)

stephen163

What's this got to do with the 45% tax rate anyway?

Generali

stephen163 wrote: »

What's this got to do with the 45% tax rate anyway?

And !!!!!! does it have to do with house prices?

This is the board moderators forgot.

mitchaa

Agreed, no idea how we managed to get this far off topic.

I think someone started the whole thing off that being an engineer was not a professional job and i simply reacted by stating some engineers are paid a hell of a lot and far more than some text book professionals.