Started on 1st working day of the month, but not paid fully?

Reds-on-Sea

So in therory you wanted to take a month off unpaid, would you still get paid for the saturdays and sundays during the time you were off? I'm sure you wouldn't!

I think it's a silly way to work it out. It should be done on days worked, or hours etc I work mine out as Salary / 52 / 37.5 = hourly rate

However, I do think it's a little petty to quibble about it, the fact is, you weren't working there for those 2 days. if they calculated it weekly and started on a monday, then you would have been paid correctly etc.

big_mortgage

Reds-on-Sea wrote: »

However, I do think it's a little petty to quibble about it, the fact is, you weren't working there for those 2 days. if they calculated it weekly and started on a monday, then you would have been paid correctly etc.

Well I couldn't, its an office and not open at the weekend!

Thing is, I have not been paid correctly. I think it should be: Salary/12, not: salary /12, less 2 days. I will have worked the full 20 working days of November.

Snuggles

I think this is standard practice tbh, it certainly is in the Civil Service.

If you are paid a salary monthly, you are paid 1/12 of your annual pay for each month of employment, irrespective of how many working days there are in the month. But you were not employed for the full month.

If I started work on the 3rd November, I would not expect to be paid a full month's salary, though I can understand why you might think it doesn't seem right.

Bean_Counter

Snuggles wrote: »

I think this is standard practice tbh, it certainly is in the Civil Service.

If you are paid a salary monthly, you are paid 1/12 of your annual pay for each month of employment, irrespective of how many working days there are in the month. But you were not employed for the full month.

If I started work on the 3rd November, I would not expect to be paid a full month's salary, though I can understand why you might think it doesn't seem right.

I agree with Snuggles. This is exactly how it is worked at every (private sector) company I have worked in.

pinkshoes

Snuggles is correct, as you weren't part of the company on the 1st and 2nd, therefore only get paid from the 3rd onwards. It's just the way it's worked out in most companies.

How much money are we talking about here??? £100? By all means kick up a fuss if you feel you're right, but for the sake of £100, I'm not sure it's worth getting the reputation of being awkward.

SandC

I think you have just been unlucky that your starting day was at the beginning of the month but the 1st/2nd days happened to be weekends. As the others have said it's worked out on a monthly basis not weekly or daily.

If you'd started in any other month it would have looked different.

big_mortgage

Well, opinion seems to be divided, thanks anyway. I still think it is very unfair.

I have started work on a Monday 3rd before and was paid no less that time.

It is after all working days I am paid for!

big_mortgage

Snuggles wrote: »

If you are paid a salary monthly, you are paid 1/12 of your annual pay for each month of employment, irrespective of how many working days there are in the month. But you were not employed for the full month.

Well I have been employed for the full working month, I have been employed by the civil service and never had a problem there!

ceridwen

Sorry to hear that O.P. and it is definitely unfair.

I know exactly what you are saying "Why should I be penalised like this because the 1st of the month happened to fall at a weekend? I would have started on the 1st of the month if it had fallen Monday-Friday."

I agree with you. The firm is trying it on. Unfortunately - I suspect they may be able to get away with doing you out of 2/31 of that months pay - just because the 1st was a Saturday.

I can only speak for what I would do in your position. I would check it out officially - ie I guess the ACAS website might be helpful. Your trade union should know as well (errr...you are in a union I guess? If not - then join one pronto - this is probably the "flavour" of how this firm is going to be - they will probably have other little try-ons they use - I dont expect this will be the only one you come across).

If you can't manage to get that 2/31 of a month's pay that the firm owe you - then I can only say what I would do. I would make a note in my diary to have 2 days "sick leave" AFTER I had safely got enough "length of service" to be safe from unfair dismissal - think that is 1 year at present? (ie the note in my diary would be for some weeks after 1 year from start date in the job).

At least that way - though they would still have succeeded in holding onto a bit of money they owed me - they wouldnt have received "free" work from me - I would have counterbalanced by taking that 2 days "sick" leave. Don't tell ANYONE that that is what you plan to do if you do it - "betrayal" is something that often happens in workplaces and is all the more likely in the current economic climate (as nastier type people think of all the gossip/other strategies they can against work colleagues - in order to make sure THEY arent the ones who suffer if jobcuts come up - there will be some work colleagues who "fight dirty" - there always are in any workplace).

Velja

I understand that it is upsetting that you would be paid a little less this month but believe me this is a STANDARD HR practice of working out people's pay! Everywhere, whether it is civil service or private concerns.
Honestly!