When is a Resturant a Resturant?

danechip

baddiebasher wrote: »

I have dealt with a few issues on this and some comments that irked me a bit.

Firstly, the DDA does not require that a venue provides toilets for disabled people. It merely provides that, where a facility is provided, it should be accessible for the disabled as well.

It does NOT mean that somewhere must have a disabled toilet but need not provide toilets for anyone else.

Equality is not having something that no-one else has. and that phrase was used by a disabled friend of mine who is equally irked by the "I'm disabled due to the huge chip on my shoulder and you're damned well gonna know about it" brigade.

LOL, A bit harsh, but true....

Contains_Mild_Peril

In Scotland, all restaurants and caf!s are required to have toilets, and I was quite shocked to discover the existence of caf!s with no toilets in England. Finding a pub is all very well for adults, but you can't always take children into pubs. I would have thought it a fairly basic health and safety issue that anywhere serving food for consumption on the premises should at least have washing facilities, and that logically they ought to have toilets too because chances are customers will sometimes need to use them after beverages.

andyrules

Contains_Mild_Peril wrote: »

In Scotland, all restaurants and caf!s are required to have toilets, and I was quite shocked to discover the existence of caf!s with no toilets in England. Finding a pub is all very well for adults, but you can't always take children into pubs. I would have thought it a fairly basic health and safety issue that anywhere serving food for consumption on the premises should at least have washing facilities, and that logically they ought to have toilets too because chances are customers will sometimes need to use them after beverages.

Interesting topic, I always thought, like CMP, that anywhere serving food was obliged to provide washing facilities under H&S. Where was the said 'cafe', Moneybox?

Andy_L

foxxymynx wrote: »

If a restaurant serves alcohol or is open after 10.30pm, it must provide toilets for it's customers. I'm not sure on what the legal definations are between cafe and restaurant.

I don't think there is a legal difference, it's a question of image.

Brooker_Dave

Moneybox wrote: »

The response was they did not as it was not a resturant. HOWEVER they sell Sandwiches, Cakes and Drinks!!

It was a shop that sold Sandwiches, Cakes and Drinks.

HTH.

DCFC79

Brooker_Dave wrote: »

It was a shop that sold Sandwiches, Cakes and Drinks.

HTH.

and not a restaurant as the title says

uganda

The title doesn't say 'It is a restaurant'. It asks 'When is a restaurant a restaurant?' The OP is asking a question because there appears to be a grey area.

Where do either of you get the idea that this was a mere shop selling comestibles? It was a large department store providing food and drink to consume on the premises with a seating area.

Whether this constitutes a restaurant or not is open to question, which is why the OP is asking it.

PS And does anyone know what HTH means?

dzug1

uganda wrote: »

PS And does anyone know what HTH means?

hope that helps

DCFC79

Well toilets weren't high on the agenda when that bit was built, dont see the issue

uganda

So HTH means 'hope that helps'? Thank you dzug. And no, Dave Brooker, I very much doubt your comment helped.

DCFC79, you must have some private information outside the thread for you to know what was high on the agenda when 'that bit' was built. What are you talking about?

And if you don't see the issue, which is as clear as day to the rest of us, a simple question about what constitutes a restaurant for toilet-facility-provision purposes, then what are you even commenting for?

Apologies in advance if I have got the wrong end of the stick...