MONEY MORAL DILEMMA. Should Lucky Luke give back his hardship grant?

just22

Well, clearly the guy's a bit of an idiot moneywise, so chances are he'll be through the £6000 he now has in no time, ready to apply for his next hardship installment, no doubt without ever having got a job.

Honestly, from what I've seen, some students are as bad as the underclass of long term dole seekers, for feeling they have a right, or that money is owed to them, while claiming they "work really hard"

mistdemon

neeyo wrote: »

No he shouldn't . When he applied for the money he needed it, Ok he's come into some money but that makes no difference, he was
entitled to it when he claimed, end of.

I think the use of the word "entitled" here demonstrates quite neatly what is wrong with our society - somebody who cannot handle their own money has no divine right to be bailed out. That said, the bailout falls under the banner of 'from everyone according to his ability, to everyone according to their need' and he should feel damn lucky to have received it. since he is now in a position where his "need" has diminished but his "ability" has increased to the tune of £5k he should hand it back immediately, that it may be used for its proper purpose to help a future claimant - despite what some people have been saying,universities do not have unlimited resources - i'm surprised that supposedly astute MS members fall for that line - money doesn't just magically appear!

Just as in most moral dilemmas, one should consider which course of action would feel the most difficult - that in most cases is the correct moral response...

jkc_2

technically he needed the money when he applied for it
and he should keep it as all students have a hard time
financially and he will need it. if he had to pay it back then
he could give the money back to save hardship later on.

Susan_Frost

Lucky will have been assessed before he got his hardship fund - and presumbly had hardship 'cos these things are not given out easily. However, I would like to think that along with the money goes some sort of money management 'discussion', at least.

The fact that he spent £1 out of the £1,000 (1,000th of the money) on something that some people disapprove of, well it is only a £1. Would people say the same if he had bought a large bar of chocolate, probably not.

He took a risk, and it paid off.

So he should keep the money. Yes.

Will he learn his lesson about money - who knows - it would be nice to think he will be more careful. He has a reprieve and can now get his head down and study without the financial stress and I hope he gets a good degree in whatever it is he is studying.

Most students value their education and work hard. It's about time the government stopped putting them under so much financial stress and sorted out a better system. Basically, they are kids who have just left school and probably just left home, usually living in a strange town and making major decisions about their lives. Not all have been brought up to have a reasonably level of maturity and some learn the hard way, unfortunately.

annmarie123_2

No keep it and enjoy!:j

clairec79

No, but had he won the money before he was awarded the grant (ie after putting in the application form but before the decision was made) then he should have contacted them and withdrawn the application

Lovejoy_Peacemaker

The question is "Should Lucky Luke give back his hardship grant?" and it answers its self because obviously only he has to decide if he wants to give back the money he was perfectly qualified to receive and did receive prior to the lottery ticket win.

We live in enough of a "Nanny State" as it is without being dictated to by all and sundry about what we should or should not do with the good fortune we gain after we've been granted help when we've asked for it, needed it or made mistakes.

It is quite clearly his own personal decision based on his own personal feelings about where he has come from , where he is now and where he is going to be shortly plus where he wants to get to.

So let Luke decide for himself!

wheelel

He almost definitely wont give it back, seeing as he seems to know nothing of the value of money but really I think he should look into it. At the very least he should inform his assessors of his new found fortune and see if they have anything to say about it.

This post caught my eye as I just yesterday had to apply for a hardship grant as 4 weeks ago I had a very serious accident and am unable to work until the new year.

I had a budget at the beginning of term, which I stuck to to the penny, but it's all gone to pot now I have lost 2 months+ income from part time work. I have no idea how Luke was managing to spend so much in the first place.

I would be very upset if the university came back to me saying they had already run out of funds, especially if I thought that the money had already gone to people like Luke, who just have no idea how to manage their money. It would be a bit of a slap in the face really, after 4 years of careful budgeting and scrimping by on a student loan. I'd hate to think that somebody could be sitting there, unable to feed themselves or pay rent, whilst Luke was out buying all his mates a very large round of drinks with his extra £1000.

denerious

Stinkybell wrote: »

Definately no, most universities have "unlimited" resources for hardship grants, so anyone else in need would still get theirs regardless if he gave it back or not. That said though, he needs to make sure he doesnt waste his cash this time

Please note Universities do not have "unlimited" resources and consequently we are constantly looking for investment from external resources primarily from the private sector. It may appear that there is a lot of money floating around however we have over 8000 students graduate a year which means we have over 24000 students at anyone time.

If we were to give each student just £100 that is almost £2.5 million. People talk about fees however this wasn't extra money received by a university, the government cut resources and this huge hole was plugged in part by fees but also generous donations on the part of generous befactors.

Sorry for the rant but I just wanted to point out there are no unlimited resources and we work hard to ensure money is available but it is definately limited!

denerious

Stinkybell wrote: »

Definately no, most universities have "unlimited" resources for hardship grants, so anyone else in need would still get theirs regardless if he gave it back or not. That said though, he needs to make sure he doesnt waste his cash this time

Please note Universities do not have "unlimited" resources and consequently we are constantly looking for investment from external resources primarily from the private sector. It may appear that there is a lot of money floating around however we have over 8000 students graduate a year which means we have over 24000 students at anyone time.

If we were to give each student just £100 that is almost £2.5 million. People talk about fees however this wasn't extra money received by a university, the government cut resources and this huge hole was plugged in part by fees but also generous donations on the part of generous befactors.

Sorry for the rant but I just wanted to point out there are no unlimited resources and we work hard to ensure money is available but it is definately limited!