Can you work and claim WTC whilst receiving incapacity benefit?

dn852k4

Someone I vaguely know and don't like has been bragging that they work 16 hours a week as a cleaner, claims WTC and still receives incapacity benefit, totaling around £300 per week. Also most of her rent/ council tax is paid for too. She is single, living on her own and hasn't done a day of legal work in her life until last month.

Is it possible to work (16 hours) and still claim WTC and incpacity benefit to the sum of £300 per week?

[Deleted User]

This person is fiddling the system in some way.

She isnt allowed to working 16+ hours when claiming IB because the permitted amount of hours must be less than 16.

If she is working 16+ hours then she is claiming IB when she should not be.

However, she could be lying to TCO and stating that she works 16+ hours, when it is in fact less than 16, in order to claim WTC.

Either way she is claiming something that she should not be.

Here is the guidance regarding Permitted Work
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/FinancialSupport/IncapacityBenefit/DG_10020667

healy

Also if they have never worked they would be claiming IS on the grounds of Incapacity unless they receive IB under the youth rules. If it is IS they receive they can only earn £20 per week without it affecting their benefit.

If the information you have is correct there is a fiddle going on.

dn852k4

You're saying it is not possible to work 16 hours, claim wtc and receive ib?

and if working 16+ hours (what is the maximum you can earn to recieve wtc)? you can keep your wages and claim wtc but not receive ib under any circumstances?

sandraroffey

IB is paid because you are too sick to work!!! either a fiddle or they are lying.

dn852k4

Surely if she's registered for wtc for working 16 hours then they should say, hang on, if you're working 16 hours we cannot pay you IB?

clairec79

dn852k4 wrote: »

You're saying it is not possible to work 16 hours, claim wtc and receive ib?

Not legally - the only possibility if this is legal is that she is (or the rumour is) mixing up IB and DLA - you can claim DLA and work (and get WTC)

The amount earnt before WTC runs out depends on the individual circumstances - for a single person I think it's something around £11,000 a year

seven-day-weekend

You CAN do Permitted Work when you are on IB but it has to be for LESS than 16 hours.

To claim Tax Credit you must work MORE than 16 hours.

So she is not entitled to one of her benefits, whichever one she has lied about.

agal

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

To claim Tax Credit you must work MORE than 16 hours.

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No it's 16 hours OR MORE
(I only know this because I have a son who works 16 hours a week and receives WTC).

seven-day-weekend

OK - corrected - but for IB it's less than 16 hours so the OP's friend is lying about one of them.

calleyw

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

You CAN do Permitted Work when you are on IB but it has to be for LESS than 16 hours.

To claim Tax Credit you must work MORE than 16 hours.

So she is not entitled to one of her benefits, whichever one she has lied about.

If you are single or a couple with no children then it is 30 hours + for WTC.

And if she has never worked or paid National Insurance they would not be getting IB.



Yours

Calley