Do I have ANY case against my current Employer?

mymatebob

I managed a number of people who earned significantly more than me.
We were all on the same grade but at different levels within that grade.
The new member of staff must be thought to be worth the amount he is being paid.
Do you get any benefits that this newer employee does not? e.g extra holidays?

zzzLazyDaisy

If you believe your employer is acting unfairly and/or unlawfully discriminating against you, then you have the right to invoke the grievance procedure which will give you the opportunity to formally raise your concerns.

However, I agree with the above posters - you should consider joining the union.

Conor_3

xxdiddiexx wrote: »

I am senior. Other party male. I don't understand your response.

Why doesn't that surprise me?

I'll say it again. There is no right anywhere in law to be paid the same amount as others, even those doing exactly the same job unless that difference in pay is based purely on the basis that you're a woman.

If you can't understand that, I guess we've found out why they think you're worth less.

Zoetoes

I typed a response but it didn't post so just briefly -

I agree with the OP, I wouldn't expect to be senior or supervisor for the same pay as the junior, what's the point? You may aswell have less stress for the same pay - unless, of course, you're using it as a step up.

Diddie, are you held responsible if the junior makes any errors?

Out of interest, was the colleague that has been replaced male or female?

tinkerbell84

But it doesn't work like that in the public sector - your pay is based on your length of service, not the other people that you work with.

So, for example, if someone on pay grade a can earn between £15k and £20k per annum, and someone on pay grabe B can earn £18k-£23k, then it's completely possible that the lower grade member of staff can reach the top of the scale while the manager is on a lower salary.

TotallyBroke

xxdiddiexx wrote: »

The other person is NOT on a lower grade. They are the same grade as me. This came into place about 2 weeks ago once the LA had finalised their new "pay deal".
They are in a junior position. One of my dutues is to manage this person. who is now on the same grade. Surely this is not right?

They may have more qualifications than you, could have more years experience in the LA field than you. Which could in turn mean they deserve the same money as you. You may find that they need no management at all and will do the job correctly and in a timely manner.
I can see where you are coming from. I am a Team Leader within a company but some the women I "lead" earn more than me. Only because some of them have been here 30years+ and therefore have a better experience of the data we produce! Not because they can do it any better than me.


In some grading jobs you have grade (A) and within that level you have to be able to X to get £10 XandY to get £20 and X,YandZ to get £30
Say, a supervisor is automatically but into grade (B) and has to F to get £40, FandG to get £50 and F,GandH to get £60.
If new person comes along is it is proven they can do X,Y,Z and F,G,H then they should be in the top end of grade (B). Above a supervisor that can only just do F and was only put there because they are a supervisor. (This is not directed at you but it is amazing how many people get promoted to supervisor for the sake of it and not because they can supervise people)

Maybe you should find out what you have to know and have experience in for each of the grades. Then try to find out if new person is able to do them to warrant the salary. If they are, then find out what you can do to help yourself move up the grade. If they are not, then wait until appraisal time and along with your Manager point out that Mr. MMM is not able to do the job at that grade and they will have to train him to be or drop him down a grade

xxdiddiexx

The new memebr is male and has no expereince of the job.

lal1234

I work in public sector too - NHS though not local authority. under our agenda for change job evaluation exercise I've ended up managing 3 people on same grade as me (but get paid more becase they've been here longer) and one person on a higher grade than me (she needs nursing qualifications for her job - I don't). All perfectly legal - though doesn't always make much sense!

tinkerbell84

xxdiddiexx wrote: »

The new memebr is male and has no expereince of the job.

There is no requirement (in law or otherwise) for you to be paid more.

TotallyBroke

Ok if he has no experience, how much of a job change is there between this person and the previous holder of job. And how much difference is there between your job and previous job holder.
This is my logic, please bear with me. Previous employer will be called Sam, You are diddie and new male is called Bob.

Diddie is Supervisor and can do A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H and earns £20,000 salary grade B (£15,000 - £20,000)
Sam was doing A,B,C,D and was also qualified to do X,Y,Z so pushed to have their job regraded and salary adusted. Sam earned £17,000 and had been for company 20years.
Bob comes along and Manager and HR decide that Bob will do A,C,E,G,H from your list. This is more work than what Sam was doing, so Bob should atleast get almost the same salary as Sam.

As I said earlier find out the different scales and what is required within each grade and do as much as you can to move up yourself. Start planning your appraisal now in your head and push for one. A supervisor that is more concerned about pay rather than being business focused to drive the team is not a good one.